Good points. After contemplating the pro and cons, your analysis absolutely covers my feelings about the situation. For now, boycott it is. I don't want the carrot stick DLC. And Gamespy/Steam or whatever was always suspicious to me. I just don't want that. At least I will play Civ 4 some time longer as it has great mods like RoM: AND with all options civ5 will have already implemented (and adjustable!) + espionage + religion. I never cared much for great graphics or hexes, in my opinion basic civ is getting flatter and flatter in terms of content with each new version, so without the very complex mods I am just not challenged anymore. And waiting for the first real mods to evolve will take half a year at least... we'll see. At least I won't buy a new comp for this like I originally planned to. I will be very careful. If its just a better Civ-Revolutions clone for dumb console kiddies you can count me out completely! If there is a demo, maybe I will try it if it doesn't involve Steam.