The more I see of this game the more I fear its the end of an era. This is starting to look more like Panzer General with Civ elements then Civ with Panzer General elements. For all the steam whiners, really out to lunch on all your complaints, just dont have a clue... as for anyone who doesnt already have steam, you are missing out on one of the greatest things to happen to PC gaming in a long time. Do you know you can buy the entire Civ4 collection for $10 right now and CIv3 complete for $1.25... these sales happen all the time for a lot of games... I picked up KOTOR for $5, Max Payne for $2.50 plus the entire UT lineup for under $15... best thing you could have for picking up older games you missed.