Civ7 seem to leave space for the 4th age?

If there is a fourth era, which I now believe there will be, the strategy behind it, from what I can see, is that they want to reach many markets by adding many nation states.
 
If there is a 4th age, I hope its of a speculative future rather than just 1980-present
There's gaps in all three eras that people have pointed out but I don't think they deserve full eras. They could probably buff out all three ages in a future expansion to include more present day developments that are missing along with more classical and pre industrial ones for the antiquity and exploration eras respectively. I'd much rather see things like the "Era of Heroes" and "Era of Magic" alternatives that Aeon suggested rather than filling out a regular game with more eras.
 
I didn't get the impression a 4th age is coming. Only that more content would be added to later modern age. It makes no sense for a completely different age/era with new civs.
 
I didn't get the impression a 4th age is coming. Only that more content would be added to later modern age. It makes no sense for a completely different age/era with new civs.
That would be the ideal solution.
 
Crazy thougt: international blocs/organizations in the style of NATO, European Union, Commonwealth of Nations, ASEAN and similar as the fourth age civilizations. You could even have multiple civilizations evolve into teh same block and then they can vie with one another to have the greater influence over their blocs.
Not really opposed to that, especially if one of the victory paths would be a global polity.

@Disgustipated Not the impression I got, but I hope you’re right.
 
That would be the ideal solution.
It would, but that would involve a complete redoing of the modern age…not that I would object, but it might be hard to stuff the whole space age/information age and atomic age into something that just barely gets into radio.
 
I've been thinking all along they'll have a 4th age. There is plenty of stuff to add.

Rail stations let you auto transport units 20 tiles away. In the 4th age there will be airports that can transport with no limit.
The 4th age will have environmental stuff. The internet, satellites, more space exploration, tourism, consumerism, and, of course, giant death robots, heh.

I think there is plenty of room for 4th age civs too. With the caveat, as someone mentioned in the live stream thread, that they let 3rd age civs stick around.

Rome -> Normans -> England -> Australia/South Africa/Canada
Goths -> Holy Roman Empire -> Prussia -> Germany
Egypt -> Abbasids -> Ottomans -> Saudi Arabia
Persia -> Mongols -> Mughals -> Pakistan
If Canada ever appears in Civ 7, it should selectable from France as well as from England. And, frankly, probably from the Shawnee as well.
 
I have theorized for a few months that a future expansion will likely add an Information Age to the game. After today's livestream seeing Modern Age effectively end in the 60s... with no tech presence of computers and internet etc... I think that seems even more like a no brainer.

The age would likely add in modern post-colonial civilizations, global village themes like air travel and commercialization, computerization and internet and satellites, growth of wireless networking and knowledge and entertainment... etc...
 
I didn't get the impression a 4th age is coming. Only that more content would be added to later modern age. It makes no sense for a completely different age/era with new civs.
I really hope so. From what I've seen, the Modern Age seems to be the least exciting to me, and I hope they expand on it without adding a fourth era. I did quite like the return of ideologies, though.

If Canada ever appears in Civ 7, it should selectable from France as well as from England. And, frankly, probably from the Shawnee as well.
I think Canada in Age 3 wouldn't be too forced. It would work reasonably well. However, being too young, Australia would feel a bit out of place.
 
Merry and Pippin are ready for the Fourth Age.

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I've been thinking all along they'll have a 4th age. There is plenty of stuff to add.

Rail stations let you auto transport units 20 tiles away. In the 4th age there will be airports that can transport with no limit.
The 4th age will have environmental stuff. The internet, satellites, more space exploration, tourism, consumerism, and, of course, giant death robots, heh.

I think there is plenty of room for 4th age civs too. With the caveat, as someone mentioned in the live stream thread, that they let 3rd age civs stick around.

Rome -> Normans -> England -> Australia/South Africa/Canada
Goths -> Holy Roman Empire -> Prussia -> Germany
Egypt -> Abbasids -> Ottomans -> Saudi Arabia
Persia -> Mongols -> Mughals -> Pakistan
I think its more likely that if there is a 4th era they will be the types of civs we saw in Beyond Earth
 
I think its more likely that if there is a 4th era they will be the types of civs we saw in Beyond Earth
That depends on what the 4th age involves…does it start with
Cold War+MAD
UN
Decolonization
then
present civs are needed (or past…include the Soviets)

if the first civic is Social Media and your starting military unit is a Drone Swarm, future fictional civs would be ok
 
That depends on what the 4th age involves…does it start with
Cold War+MAD
UN
Decolonization
then
present civs are needed (or past…include the Soviets)

if the first civic is Social Media and your starting military unit is a Drone Swarm, future fictional civs would be ok
The way they're approaching eras feels like adding another would be odd. I'd rather them extend the existing eras because so far we have multiple modern countries that would not exist in any way in the last age
 
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The way they're approaching eras feels like adding another would be odd. I'd rather them extend the existing eras because so far we have multiple modern countries that would not exist in any way in the last age
I would agree that I’d prefer a 3rd Age that covers more (1750-2050 instead of 1750-1950) but it would have to be a complete redesign of the 3rd age

you would have an Age with
..massive colonization/empire formation (Scramble) AND massive imperial collapse (decolonization)

…massive Total Wars followed by Proxy Wars only (MAD for actual civs)

It could not be done, but they would basically have to get rid of 2/3 of the Modern units, buildings, techs, and civics etc. to not overcrowd it.

That would not go well with the idea of an “expansion.”

As it is, I think a 4th age is the best option that we are likely to get.
 
I think Canada in Age 3 wouldn't be too forced. It would work reasonably well. However, being too young, Australia would feel a bit out of place.
Australia is a good candidate for a 4th age Civ.
Saying that, it’s national identity and initial development is more set to the early modern period and matches the 3rd age game play.
The gold rush established Melbourne on the map and the Australian economy like Canada has always heavily leaned on natural resource exploitation to this day.

Still keen to see the first 3 ages fill out and hopefully we get a 4th in 2 years or so
 
I can see a fourth age going into the near future, as well as a bronze age "zero", though even that requires tons of reworks. That's why in-between ages seem unlikely to me. But in 8 years of life cycle, lots of stuff can happen. So let's see and play the game first :)

Not all eras need to be of similar length as well. By the size of the Modern era tech tree, I don't feel like it will fill 200 turns. And yeah, if the World Wars and Nukes are the crisis, a contemporary and near future age with the Climate Crisis as the Crisis seems really fitting :) I do agree though that making the civs here less unique because of globalization making lots of stuff quite similar seems like a good approach. But that is the benefit of the age system. They can change the game, and have a reasonable chance the AI gets to play it right.. :)
 
Haven't read every single post in this 5-pages thread, so maybe someone mentioned it already and i missed it, but in the Modern Age Livestream, at around 53:50 Ed says something like "there's a limit of 20 tiles for Railroad transfer in this particular age", quite an interesting way to phrase it when you know Railroad will only be available in the Modern Age at release :think: A 4th age after Modern also makes a lot of sense considering we are now well past the ending of that age, and as others pointed it's been common in previous titles to eventually move towards "future era".

I hope if they add a 4th age (which i consider extremely likely), that they will go all out Sci-Fi because an entire age for an "information age" spanning less than a century would be weird compared to the previous 3 ages for thousands of years of history. Then there is the issue, which was already raised, of finding sufficiently influential, yet "politically correct" contemporary civilizations. I think going Sci-Fi is the only sensible route for a 4th age at that point, and thanks to the ages mechanics, they might actually be able to make it interesting for the first time in Civ history.

I have hopes for an interesting 4th age, but we won't see that for another couple years anyway.
 
Some speculation on 4th age victory conditions and crises:

Economic - They bring back corporations. You get points for spreading your corporations in more cities.
Military - Leaning into the cold war, I think building up a nuclear arsenal will give you points. 1 point for atomic, 2 points for thermonuclear, 3 points for ICBMS, etc.
Science - Landing on Alpha Centauri, as usual.
Culture - Tourism will come back. Probably no rock bands, but maybe something similar. Or they'll incorporate the Internet somehow.

4th age crisis will almost certainly be climate change. But perhaps some trouble with AI/robots as well.
 
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