Civilization 7 Soundtrack/Music discussion

[Siptah]

Was kind of hoping to get something along the lines of Preußens Gloria - one of the most fun, jaunty anthems I can think of. This is just kinda... there. Maybe I'm missing a connection to some other musical piece.

I was expecting either Preußens Gloria or standard Baroque music. I would have liked either. Instead, we get something that would pass as being ambient music in a 60s Hollywood movie about Rome.

 

[local_hero]

I like it, but I agree it's kinda ambient-y. But I appreciate the somber better than the bombastic.

 

[The_J]

I like it.
I guess I have to ^^.

 

[Weraptor]

Some commenter on YouTube speculated that the theme may be based on a BALTIC Prussian folk song. This reminds me of Rizzo going for Sundanese melody in a theme for the Majapahit.

 

[Siptah]

Can‘t wait for the Bulgarian and Nepalese music!

 

[Kankan]

Some commenter on YouTube speculated that the theme may be based on a BALTIC Prussian folk song. This reminds me of Rizzo going for Sundanese melody in a theme for the Majapahit.

It seems to be that way as the melody (especially in the first half) is virtually the exact same which is an interesting choice to say the least. And likely explains why it doesn’t sound like music of modern Prussia. If anything one of their marches would’ve fit better.

Rizzo made Majapahit’s theme also sound far too Western as well which is also quite odd.

 

[Kankan]

Also gave both another listen and it does seem like Buganda’s theme is indeed based off the Bugandan anthem (Ekitiibwa kya Buganda)

 

[Kimiimaro]

Can‘t wait for the Bulgarian and Nepalese music!

Here's to hope the Bulgarian theme has some Orthodox chants, like the Byzantine themes do in the previous games .

I'm also curious about the Qajar theme. Combination of Persian and Western instruments can sound delightful (as an example, I like to relisten to this piece from time to time), so I hope I'll be pleasantly surprised. Bonus points if the accompanying art shows some pretty Qajar architecture, preferably with stained glass .

 

[Guandao]

Some commenter on YouTube speculated that the theme may be based on a BALTIC Prussian folk song. This reminds me of Rizzo going for Sundanese melody in a theme for the Majapahit.

That's definitely one of the inspirations for the theme. I wonder if Rizzo confused the later German Prussia with the more earlier Baltic Prussia.....arguably this music would have fit Lithuania better. This reminds me of Geoff Knorr picking two Slavic Macedonian songs for Macedon's themes in Civ6.

Also gave both another listen and it does seem like Buganda’s theme is indeed based off the Bugandan anthem (Ekitiibwa kya Buganda)

I'm having trouble hearing the anthem in Buganda's theme. I think there might be another musical inspiration.

I'm definitely looking forward to the upcoming DLC Civs' themes. All of them really, Great Britain, Bulgaria, Carthage, Nepal, Assyria, Dai Viet, Qajar, and Silla.

 

[Kankan]

That's definitely one of the inspirations for the theme. I wonder if Rizzo confused the later German Prussia with the more earlier Baltic Prussia.....arguably this music would have fit Lithuania better. This reminds me of Geoff Knorr picking two Slavic Macedonian songs for Macedon's themes in Civ6.

To play Devil’s Advocate, the Baltic Prussian language was still spoken in parts of Prussia until the 18th century as a minority language and many Prussians were partially descended from the Baltic Prussians. However without a doubt Prussia’s theme would better fit Lithuania (especially given how calm it feels compared to typical Prussian marches)

I'm having trouble hearing the anthem in Buganda's theme. I think there might be another musical inspiration.

It seems to be largely subtle but it does seem to partly be in Buganda’s theme, I do agree that there is most likely another musical inspiration. However, I’m still struggling to find it. (the absence of lyrics doesn’t help much either)

 

[Kjimmet]

I'm personally happy to hear there is at least some Baltic influence in Prussia - even if it's in music. I was quite disappointed seeing Prussia was just Germany with a different name.

 

[canadamufc]

Was the music in Trung Trac’s First Look ever identified? Could that be Dai Viet’s theme? It could also just be an ambient.

 

[RedCourtJester]

It seems to be that way as the melody (especially in the first half) is virtually the exact same which is an interesting choice to say the least. And likely explains why it doesn’t sound like music of modern Prussia. If anything one of their marches would’ve fit better.

Rizzo made Majapahit’s theme also sound far too Western as well which is also quite odd.

A lot of Rizzo's stuff has sounded pretty samey to me this time around. Not all of his tracks, but a surprising number of them.

 

[Zaarin]

A lot of Rizzo's stuff has sounded pretty samey to me this time around. Not all of his tracks, but a surprising number of them.

With a few exceptions like Phoenicia and Norway, I've always preferred Knorr's compositions.

 

[RedCourtJester]

With a few exceptions like Phoenicia and Norway, I've always preferred Knorr's compositions.

I would agree, although I even liked more of his compositions there, they had more identity. Like I can definitely feel different orchestrations and vibes between Canada, Hungary, and the Mapuche.

Here, it's just kind of blurring together so far. Maybe that's intended for certain civ pathways, iunno.

 

[Kankan]

I think the issue with Rizzo’s compositions is that at times they lack authenticity (such as Russia’s theme containing Hymn to Red October or the Majapahit theme as a whole) or are a bit too repetitive (looking at you Normans and Prussia)

Knorr’s compositions are mostly more authentic and less repetitive whilst keeping as strongly as possible to the source material.

 

[Kankan]

Meiji Japan’s theme seems to be composed of multiple Japanese songs

Sakura

Rokudan no Shirabe

Kagome, Kagome

 

[Sagax]

These are mentioned in Youtube comments, but the tunes aren't really recognizable at any point in Meiji's theme. So the inspiration for Meiji's theme is still up in the air.

While waiting on that, here's Prussian theme source (or at least part of it) - Zeminnika kweitākedi

Now that's....unexpected. A modern rendition of an Old (Baltic) Prussian folk song from pre-Teutonic times.

 

[RedCourtJester]

These are mentioned in Youtube comments, but the tunes aren't really recognizable at any point in Meiji's theme. So the inspiration for Meiji's theme is still up in the air.

While waiting on that, here's Prussian theme source (or at least part of it) - Zeminnika kweitākedi

Now that's....unexpected. A modern rendition of an Old (Baltic) Prussian folk song from pre-Teutonic times.

Makes me wonder how likely the Teutons might be anymore. I thought they would be an interesting counterpart to the Normans that could lead into Prussia, Poland-Lithuania, and whatever our levantine endpoints are.

 

[notNamed]

While waiting on that, here's Prussian theme source (or at least part of it) - Zeminnika kweitākedi

Now that's....unexpected. A modern rendition of an Old (Baltic) Prussian folk song from pre-Teutonic times.

That's not a Prussian song. That's a Lithuanian neo-pagan band performing a completely original orchestration of a 19th century Lithuanian poem the band writer translated into Old Prussian.

From their own description: Tekstas į senąją Prūsų kalbą išverstas iš Rytprūsiuose Liudviko Rėzos išleisto lietuvininkų liaudies dainų rinkinio 84-tosios dainos; pointing to https://archive.org/details/dainos00reza/page/226/mode/2up for the Lithuanian poem they used as a base.