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Civilization/Leader Ref List - Game Setup Help

Discussion in 'Civ4 Strategy Articles' started by Denniz, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. Denniz

    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Attached are two short reference lists of the Civilization & Leader information I am always needing when I am setting up a new game. One list is ordered by Civilization and the other by Leader.

    The lists were created using data from the Civ 4 Info Center. :thumbsup:

    I have provided 3 formats: doc, rtf and xls. (If someone with a pdf writer wants to add that, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. ;) )


    EDIT: Updated files with corrections noted below by Baines and Aminor. Added Trait & Tech Matrices. PDF versions courtesy of Sadan01 can be found in here.
     

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  2. Baines

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    Good initiative, but you should know that the Info Center is not 100% correct.
    For example Luis XIV is not Creative/Organized, he's Creative/Industrious. It says so ingame and you can check C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml for details.

    I don't know if there are more traits that are listed wrong in the Info Center, hopefully they will change it in the next update. :rolleyes:

    Edit: You can download a free PDF writer at http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp hope it fills your needs, haven't used it myself.
     
  3. Aminor

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    I used the tables provided by Denniz as a quick basis for some tables of my own (which I will share here as soon as presentable). Since Baines noted one discrepancy I reviewed the information carefully from the manual and found one other change:

    Swap Roman (Julius Caesar) from Expansive/Creative to Expansive/Organized

    and Persia (Cyrus) from Expansive/Organized to Expansive/Creative

    Otherwise, all combinations of traits are possible other than Creative/Organized and Industrious/Philosophical.

    .pdf generation is also an option with most modern office suites -- at least the two that I use which of course omits the most common. ;)
     
  4. Denniz

    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Yikes.:sad: It never occured to me to check.

    I am not sure I would trust the manual. I am going to check against the game. (not the civilopedia)

    I will see if I can re-post them this evening.

    Thanks, guys.
     
  5. Denniz

    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Corrected Files in first message.

    Added Trait & Tech Matrices.
     
  6. Aminor

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    I agree about not believing any source of data at this point which was why I did/will try to reference where I obtained the information when posting.

    Thanks for adding the Trait matrix. That was exactly what I had roughed out as a quick guide when selecting a new leader for a new game. The Tech matrix is also handy though I haven't paid as much attention to that... so far. :)
     
  7. Sadan01

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    Please find those three documents in PDF format attached. ;)

    Great work on these documents Denniz :) They are very useful instead of having to search through the manual or the Civilopedia.
     

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    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Good point. I verified the list by starting a game with each leader. The only issues I found were the ones you and Baines noted. :)
     
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    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Thanks, Sadan. :goodjob:
     
  10. fung3

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    Nice work Denniz. Much appeciated.

    Just a thought, how about adding preferred Civics to the CIV 4 Civilizations chart.
     
  11. LeSphinx

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    Very usefull: thanks Denniz

    LeSphinx
     
  12. Shevek

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    Great. I have printed it and will use it.
    Thanks for doing the work.
     

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