Civilization VII - Content Spreadsheet Thread - Civ overview!

[Eagle Pursuit]

From the photographs I've seen of old railroads (1880s to 1940s) the only time locomotives would be posed with the front showing out of the roundhouse would be for a photoshoot to show off the locomotive roster: the front end of a steam locomotive looks so much more distinctive than the back end of the coal and water tender!

Of course, the same thing applies to model railroads - there's nothing more dramatic than a half-dozen steam locomotives poking their noses out side by side . . .

I know it's unlikely from what we've seen so far, but I do hope that someday a Civ rendition will include trains actually moving over tracks from city to city - a graphic indication of industry and trade, if nothing else.

"There isn't a train I wouldn't take
No matter where it was going"
- Edna St Vincent Millay

My line of thinking for why Firaxis would put the engine in backwards is that pop culture has largely moved past steam engines, but the one place where you still see them is Thomas the Tank Engine. On that show, the trains park with their heads out the doors so they can talk to each other.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

My line of thinking for why Firaxis would put the engine in backwards is that pop culture has largely moved past steam engines, but the one place where you still see them is Thomas the Tank Engine. On that show, the trains park with their heads out the doors so they can talk to each other.

Didn't know about the cartoon connection, I just assumed the game was doing it for the same reason the real railroads and the railroad modelers did: it shows off the locomotive better than the back end of a water tank, which is all that shows when it's facing the other way.

 

[Rac]

Ok, today we got the Hawai'i confirmation! Usually since it's not much "new" news I would have mentioned it together witth First Look of the week latter, but I did some cleanup (actually a mess perhaps) and actually using the standarts set up... So Kamehameha was mentioned in Hawai'i description, following the same logic as Alexander and Temüjin, I put him as implicated; after that I revised if there was any other mention descriptions hapenned or not that I missed, and suprise there's 3 more: Kublai Khan, Liu Bang (Gaozu) and Mani.
Now, do I think any of these could actually hapen and not be just references? I doubt but who knows, it's still fun though of posibilites.

 

[Xandinho]

It looks like Emile Bell was seen in the Hawaii reveal video, right?

 

[8housesofelixir]

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I think the American quarter has been in front of us all along. An industrial spin on it would be quite interesting, I suppose it would fit the direction started with Lincoln in VI. Here's my reasoning:
- Both buildings only appear in cities with this style
- All shots they appear in which also have a City Hall building or Palace, it's America
- The surroundings very much look like a quarter. There's extra rails,. a crane, a tank, and a big and a smaller gate. None of these things is there when any of these buildings appears on its own.
- The Furnace building at first looks like this style's version of the Steelmill/Furnace/Foundry ("Foundry" from here on) building. The overall shape is fairly similar. HOWEVER, there is one shot where it appears together with the style's version of the Foundry in a single tile!

Here is the Foundry in the Asian style:
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Here we see both together, the Foundry at the top and the High Furnace unique at the bottom:
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In the same shot, we can see the other building sharing a tile with a Sawmill, and in neither tile there's any sign of rail infrastructure.
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We can even see a tile transition from just two buildings into a full Rail Yard quarter in that scene once the second building completes:
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Following on this: If the design focus is on the American steel industry, then this Steelmill/Furnace/Foundry also looks very similar to the Bethlehem Steel Plant in Bethlehem, PA - one of the world's largest steel-producing plants and one of the driving forces behind the WWII Arsenal of Democracy.

 

[The_J]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1862542036076822594

this thread confirms again the 31 civs.

 

[AriochIV]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1862542036076822594

this thread confirms again the 31 civs.

Was it in question?

 

[The_J]

You never know if the last time was accidental .

 

[Zaarin]

Was it in question?

A few people have been insisting that it must be wrong, even though the first announcement didn't leave much open to interpretation...

 

[Bast]

Sorry to be political, but I wish Civ would stop using X and go to BlueSky lol

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Sorry to be political, but I wish Civ would stop using X and go to BlueSky lol

Twitter is where a lot of the customers are. Admittedly, some of them are just there to complain that there's a Polynesian civ when there aren't another five gold-focused colonial European civs along with Spain in the Age of Exploration and that two Native North American civs is the most Woke™ thing to ever occur, but a lot of them aren't. I think copying the tweets over onto the other site wouldn't hurt, though, although that is some extra work...

 

[AriochIV]

Sorry to be political, but I wish Civ would stop using X and go to BlueSky lol

As if using one means not using the other... they post anywhere that a significant number of people will see. I suspect Bluesky isn't that yet.

And being political with marketing kind of defeats the purpose of marketing... as if recent events haven't made that perfectly clear.

 

[Lord Lakely]

There has been a Gaymer exodus on X, so it would make sense to advertise on BlueSky also. It may not be a full market, but it costs them nothing and results in a few more sales.

 

[AriochIV]

Maintaining social media accounts is not without cost -- I'm sure folks like @FXS_Sar don't work for free -- and that's assuming that they don't pay extra to boost their posts, which they probably do. So it's a trade-off between cost and benefit.

Twitter has roughly 600 million active users, and Reddit about 500 million. Bluesky claims to have grown to 20 million, but how many of those are actually active? There's no telling at this point. (I created an account there just to establish the username, but I don't actually use it.)

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Maintaining social media accounts is not without cost -- I'm sure folks like @FXS_Sar don't work for free -- and that's assuming that they don't pay extra to boost their posts, which they probably do. So it's a trade-off between cost and benefit.

Twitter has roughly 600 million active users, and Reddit about 500 million. Bluesky claims to have grown to 20 million, but how many of those are actually active? There's no telling at this point. (I created an account there just to establish the username, but I don't actually use it.)

I've actually brought it up with a few Firaxians. It's the realm of 2K's marketing department about which venues they choose to post on. So, the best way to get them to open an account on a new social platform is to make noise about it.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Putting aside politics, I do have mad respect for Musk being on the brink of becoming the first non-state to win civ IRL. Maybe the last modern civ we can't work out is simply going to be X?

 

[gdr_willter]

Putting aside politics, I do have mad respect for Musk being on the brink of becoming the first non-state to win civ IRL. Maybe the last modern civ we can't work out is simply going to be X?

That's very political estimation of Musk, you know.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

That's very political estimation of Musk, you know.

That's just fact isnt it? He's about to win a science victory because his rockets are going to be powering a human to the moon in the Artemis program

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

That's just fact isnt it? He's about to win a science victory because his rockets are going to be powering a human to the moon in the Artemis program

That doesn't make  him the winner. His rockets are paid for by billions of dollars in US government funding.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

That doesn't make  him the winner. His rockets are paid for by billions of dollars in US government funding.

If another civilization gives you a gift that means you can build the rocket, you've still won by building the rocket.

I find it interesting that he's such a divisive figure now that this is something that is pushed back on rather than chuckled at!