Civilizations' Religions

[Dom Pedro II]

I'm trying to figure out nouns for the religions of the various civilizations. I know about their gods and rituals, so that's really not what this is about, I just don't know what I should call their faiths. Some are easy since they have titles, but others may not even have titles.

Civilizations:

1. Americans - Christianity
2. Arabs - Islam
3. Aztecs - ?
4. Babylonians - ?
5. Byzantines - Christianity
6. Carthaginians - Baalism?
7. Celts - Druidism
8. Chinese - Confuscianism, Taoism, Buddhism
9. Dutch - Christianity
10. Egyptians - ?
11. English - Christianity
12. French - Christianity
13. Germans - Christianity
14. Greeks - ?
15. Hittites - ?
16. Inca - ?
17. Indians - Hinduism
18. Iroquois - Naturalism, Animalism
19. Japanese - Shintoism
20. Koreans - Buddhism
21. Mayans - ?
22. Mongols - Buddhism
23. Ottomans - Islam
24. Persians - Zoroastrianism (Mazdeism)
25. Portuguese - Christianity
26. Romans (pre-Christian) - ?
27. Russians - Christian
28. Spanish - Christianity
29. Sumerians - ?
30. Vikings - Asatru
31. Zulus - Animism?

 

[Mobilize]

Celts - Druidism
Greeks - Greek Paganism/Classicalism?
Romans - Roman Paganism/Classicalism?
Egyptians - Egyptian Paganism/Classicalism?
Vikings - Norse Paganism

Maybe you should divide Christianity to Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, etc. etc.

Orthodox:
Russians
Byzantines

Catholic:
Spanish
Portuguese
Dutch

Protestant:
English (could also be Catholic)
America

 

[Dom Pedro II]

The Christian nations are already divided in my mod, I just didn't want to get into it here... but thanks though.

 

[Mobilize]

I think the Hittites, Babylonians, and Sumerians all believed in Sumerian Mythology. I know the Babylonians and Sumerians did. The Hittites could possibly be Zoroastronist as well.

I remember some name for the Zulu religion.. or well African tribal worship in general.. but I cannot grasp it's name.

As for the Iroquois, it would be Naturalism, Paganism, or Animalism.

Oh and for the Chinese. I would leave it at Daoism. Daoism is more religious than Confusciousism which is mainly a philosophy.

 

[Packer-Backer]

I agree that placing Christianity (Evangelicals, Protestants, Lutherans, etc.) with Catholics is a terrible mismatching. Very, very few people know it but a couple Popes were Satanists. I also am curious what civs like the Aztecs called their religion.

-PB

 

[Redking]

Celt = druidism (though not entirely accurate)
Vikings (and ancient Germans/English/Dutch for that matter) = asatru or nordvegr (though both are modern revisitations of ancient belief systems.

alternate name for Zoroastrianism is Mazdeism, which reflects the deity rather than the prophet.

 

[Packer-Backer]

What about civs that some people want? Civs like Tibet are obvious, Buddhism. But what was the religion of the Nubians, Khmers, and Sioux?

 

[thestonesfan]

Nubians, or at least the Ku****es, felt they were Egyptians and followed their gods.

Sioux should be the same as the Iroquois, I'd say.

 

[Rita Poon]

"Funny, she doesn't look Druish"

I've replaced civilization culture groups with religion in my game. Basic groups are Christianity, Islam, Buddhism & indigenous religion. Indigenous religion=faiths exclusive to a single civ.

Would be cool if you could convert your people, at the cost of enduring a short period of civil disobediance. Natch religious civs would have a tougher time converting. Would slightly ease the HUGE advantage of seamless government changes in religious societies.

This thread raises the question, what relgion should be the default for each civ? Do you look at the religion of the civ's leader? What if the leader is wishy washy on religion? Take Temujin, Muslim or Buddhist? Tokugawa, Buddhist or Shinto? What about Ragnar? Basically he was an Asatru who lived during Scandinavia's Christianization.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

The leader is one factor, but I wouldn't say it should be the primary one. I mean, take Egypt. Cleopatra's Egypt was very different from the Egypt of Ramses.

I'd say whenever their leader OR possibly their period of greatest importance and "uniqueness" I'd say.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

ha we cant say Ku****es

but for the Aztecs, Incas, etc i would just say some sort of cult or blood cult

 

[Mr. Dictator]

btw i thought the mongols were Atheists

and for Greeks and Romans i would say Greek Polytheism and Roman Polytheism respectively

 

[Dom Pedro II]

No, the Mongols were a mix of Buddhism and Islam... depending largely on what period in Mongol history you look at.

 

[Mobilize]

Only if there were the Huns to represent Atheists like myself.

 

[Packer-Backer]

I thought atheists consider atheism a void of religion. Sure the Huns called Atilla the Scourge of God but they also had a lot of rituals, so maybe they are an anti-god cult, like Satanism except with less blatant blasphemy (say that three times fast! ) If there were to be some new "special" traits like for scenarios or something they should have Atheist as one of them with more expensive temples as a cultural stunting. But I also thought atheism should be a gov flag for govs like communism or fascism with maybe more expensive temples and stuff and definently less effect on culture and happy citizens.

 

[Mobilize]

Yes Atheism is the absence of religion, however I would consider it being somewhat a religion because of how it isn't one. Yes it's confusing, hard to explain. But Atheist should be a form of religion in this mod but in a more governmental form and it should apply for Communism because of how Communism eliminates religious influence in a religion. So I guess you can have Atheist traits only while be Communist, there's probably someway to implement this.

As for the Huns, a large portion of them were Atheists, thus why they were so rutheless and morally careless to people of Monotheistic beliefs. I remember reading something about them being Atheists.. In fact I believe it was in the Age of Empires II: The Conquerors history for the Huns. Of course, since they did force people to fight and did have mercenaries they weren't completely Atheist and I bet some Huns themselves had some beliefs in some faith.. either Paganistic or Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. I also remember hearing about how some Mongol tribes were Atheist as well. This is probably true about most nomadic peoples, including some Native Americans.

 

[Packer-Backer]

I know that the Huns were so ruthless, especially to Catholics/Eastern Orthodox people of Europe. Satan deffinently had some fun with the Huns. On the subject of Huns: Where did they originate, I read the AoE 2: Conq history a lot and it was sort of educational, very suprising for a video game! Did the Huns come from Asia, I remember another historical source saying they came from the same place as the Mongols and that maybe the Mongols were descendants of the Huns who didn't migrate away from Mongolia. I'm not sure of the logic behind that but that's just what someone said. Even though they were brutal and had an absence where civilized cultures came into play, the Huns are intersting.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Rita Poon
What about Ragnar? Basically he was an Asatru who lived during Scandinavia's Christianization.

So "Asatru" can know be used in English a count refering to an individual believer? The barbarism!

The Modern Swedish would be asatroende, lit "aesir-believing (one)", the faith being asatron, where the final -n is a definiteness suffix; "the Asatru".

(What religions get articles is essentially random in Swedish; most do, but some, perhaps most prominently islam, which I feel no need to translate, does not.)

 

[veezed]

Um, all the people of Indochina and Indonesia ought to be Buddhist or Hindu. Although lately Islam and Christianity has proliferated there too.

Japan could be Shinto. Korea, same as China. Also, some interesting variations of Christianity (Koptic, Armenian, Aryan, Nestorian) which were not at all the same as those of orthodox churches, apply to certain people of past and present.

Finally, Mithraism and Gnosticism were biggies in their day. Although Gnosticism is more disorganised than New Age or Neo-Pagan beliefs.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

but what about the Native American Tribes, i can see the South American ones as a bloodcult type religion, but what about the Iroquois, etc.

how about something like ancestor worship

yes, no, maybe so