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Climate change 'will cause civilisation to collapse' says report

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The planet's future: Climate change 'will cause civilisation to collapse'

Authoritative new study sets out a grim vision of shortages and violence – but amid all the gloom, there is some hope too


By Jonathan Owen

Sunday, 12 July 2009

An effort on the scale of the Apollo mission that sent men to the Moon is needed if humanity is to have a fighting chance of surviving the ravages of climate change. The stakes are high, as, without sustainable growth, "billions of people will be condemned to poverty and much of civilisation will collapse".

This is the stark warning from the biggest single report to look at the future of the planet – obtained by The Independent on Sunday ahead of its official publication next month. Backed by a diverse range of leading organisations such as Unesco, the World Bank, the US army and the Rockefeller Foundation (those damn hippies :mad: ), the 2009 State of the Future report runs to 6,700 pages and draws on contributions from 2,700 experts around the globe. Its findings are described by Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the UN, as providing "invaluable insights into the future for the United Nations, its member states, and civil society".

The impact of the global recession is a key theme, with researchers warning that global clean energy, food availability, poverty and the growth of democracy around the world are at "risk of getting worse due to the recession". The report adds: "Too many greedy and deceitful decisions led to a world recession and demonstrated the international interdependence of economics and ethics."

Although the future has been looking better for most of the world over the past 20 years, the global recession has lowered the State of the Future Index for the next 10 years. Half the world could face violence and unrest due to severe unemployment combined with scarce water, food and energy supplies and the cumulative effects of climate change.

And the authors of the report, produced by the Millennium Project – a think-tank formerly part of the World Federation of the United Nations Associations – set out a number of emerging environmental security issues. "The scope and scale of the future effects of climate change – ranging from changes in weather patterns to loss of livelihoods and disappearing states – has unprecedented implications for political and social stability."

But the authors suggest the threats could also provide the potential for a positive future for all. "The good news is that the global financial crisis and climate change planning may be helping humanity to move from its often selfish, self-centred adolescence to a more globally responsible adulthood... Many perceive the current economic disaster as an opportunity to invest in the next generation of greener technologies, to rethink economic and development assumptions, and to put the world on course for a better future."

Scientific and technological progress continues to accelerate. IBM promises a computer at 20,000 trillion calculations per second by 2011, which is estimated to be the speed of the human brain. And nanomedicine may one day rebuild damaged cells atom by atom, using nanobots the size of blood cells. But technological progress carries its own risks. "Globalisation and advanced technology allow fewer people to do more damage and in less time, so that possibly one day a single individual may be able to make and deploy a weapon of mass destruction."

The report also praises the web, which it singles out as "the most powerful force for globalisation, democratisation, economic growth, and education in history". Technological advances are cited as "giving birth to an interdependent humanity that can create and implement global strategies to improve the prospects for humanity".

The immediate problems are rising food and energy prices, shortages of water and increasing migrations "due to political, environmental and economic conditions", which could plunge half the world into social instability and violence. And organised crime is flourishing, with a global income estimated at $3 trillion – twice the military budgets of all countries in the world combined.

The effects of climate change are worsening – by 2025 there could be three billion people without adequate water as the population rises still further. And massive urbanisation, increased encroachment on animal territory, and concentrated livestock production could trigger new pandemics.

Although government and business leaders are responding more seriously to the global environmental situation, it continues to get worse, according to the report. It calls on governments to work to 10-year plans to tackle growing threats to human survival, targeting particularly the US and China, which need to apply the sort of effort and resources that put men on the Moon.

"This is not only important for the environment; it is also a strategy to increase the likelihood of international peace. Without some agreement, it will be difficult to get the kind of global coherence needed to address climate change seriously."

While the world has the resources to address its challenges, coherence and direction have been lacking. Recent meetings of the US and China, as well as of Nato and Russia, and the birth of the G20 plus the continued work of the G8 promise to improve global strategic collaboration, but "it remains to be seen if this spirit of co-operation can continue and if decisions will be made on the scale necessary to really address the global challenges discussed in this report".

Although the scale of the effects of climate change are unprecedented, the causes are generally known, and the consequences can largely be forecast. The report says, "coordination for effective and adequate action is yet incipient, and environmental problems worsen faster than response or preventive policies are being adopted".

Jerome Glenn, director of the Millennium Project and one of the report's authors, said: "There are answers to our global challenges, but decisions are still not being made on the scale necessary to address them. Three great transitions would help both the world economy and its natural environment – to shift as much as possible from freshwater agriculture to saltwater agriculture; produce healthier meat without the need to grow animals; and replace gasoline cars with electric cars."

First time I've heard world powers & the mainstream media spell it out so clearly.

Enjoy what we've got while we've got it, good to remember anytime but especially these days. Unless Kurzweilian nanobots somehow save us I don't see any way to avoid inevitably collapse. Hopefully some of you will someday look back and appreciate me for helping you be among the prepared who make it thru the population bottleneck of the mid-twenty-first century (though what to do is up to you).
 
You helping us? How?
 
Well that's bad news for the Civilization Fanatics Center. What are we supposed to discuss now?
 
... this stuff?
 
He is the messiah of Peak Oil, my child. Believe and you will be saved :jesus:

He can preach till he is blue in the face but how does that help me survive?
 
You helping us? How?
He can preach till he is blue in the face but how does that help me survive?
The how is up to you. I can't guarantee what course of action will be the right one. I figure people who keep themselves healthy (mentally, emotionally, physically) & choose where they live (British Columbia might be a better long term sustainable solution than L.A. or Phoneix for example) and who they associate with carefully and find a way to be valuable to their communities will fare better than others.

Knowing the probable future helps you avoid wasting your time on avenues that hold nothing. Or even if you do (major in Literature or make a long term investment in a Las Vegas casino) at least you know what you're doing & can savor it for what it's worth in the moment. :)

Well that's bad news for the Civilization Fanatics Center. What are we supposed to discuss now?
This chick? :dunno:
 
I'm gonna go and do my part in reducing overpopulation. :ar15: :run:

Back on topic. This is assuming we do nothing right?
 
No biggie, civilizations collapse all the time.
Well the Soviet empire collapsed and people managed with only a slight contraction in population, however on a global scale it will be a bigger deal. Civilization has not collapsed on a global scale before.
 
Well the Soviet empire collapsed and people managed with only a slight contraction in population, however on a global scale it will be a bigger deal. Civilization has not collapsed on a global scale before.

It's happened on a continental scale. Sucks for the people killed off at the time. But opens lots of possibilities for the survivors.
 
How primitive! If you're serious build one of these instead (note to evil overseers, I am kidding)
Guns and bullets are one thing, but depriving honest Internet users of Web access. That's...that's a war crime... :badcomp:

And without computers, people will procreate. It makes the problem worse!

Assuming we don't do everything right. ;)
Great. And this recession isn't helping in cutting back emissions and consumption. Well, awareness is the first step...
 
Unesco, the World Bank, the US army and the Rockefeller Foundation

Just doing it to dodge criticism... cheaper to pay them off than do damage control. :lol:
 
Well the Soviet empire collapsed and people managed with only a slight contraction in population, however on a global scale it will be a bigger deal. Civilization has not collapsed on a global scale before.

Yeah, yeah, a global collapse would be catastrophic.

But is a sudden world-wide collapse of *everything* really what is going to happen? Nah, it's going to be a somewhat gradual descent into hell. By the time we're fully there, I won't even be around!
 
Well the Soviet empire collapsed and people managed with only a slight contraction in population, however on a global scale it will be a bigger deal. Civilization has not collapsed on a global scale before.

Collapse of Rome, collapse of several Chinese dynasties, Mongol invasions (and subsequent collapse) were pretty gigantic for their time. Some of those did see massive declines in population and never recovered.

The problem with your article is that it does not back up your claim that civilization is doomed PRETTY SOON. It basically says, if we keep doing bad stuff civilization will collapse because of global climate change...eventually maybe. Well, no freaking duh.

"We" don't have a problem with the general idea of civilization being in trouble because of our over indulgence in natural resources Narz, it's just your incessant belief that it's just around the corner that is irritating. Especially since your evidence for such claims is usually kinda circumspect.

It's either go with the general consensus that it's NOT going to destroy civilization Emmerich style in 20 years, or live in a hippy commune and eat bean curd all day just to be sure. I'll take my chances, you take yours. I won't come crying to you when asparagus becomes the new currency, if you don't come crying to me when you realize you wasted the prime of your life waiting like a millenarian for the end times that never came. Deal?
 
Narz said:
Well the Soviet empire collapsed and people managed with only a slight contraction in population, however on a global scale it will be a bigger deal. Civilization has not collapsed on a global scale before.

It lost about 5 million people from a population of 148.5 million at its peek in 1991. That might not seem much, until you take into the account the economic dysfunction of the Soviet Union prior its collapse: people were used to periodic shortages in essentials and the Soviet economy was geared to continue working despite this. It fell short sometimes but always pulled through eventually. Your economy and whole psyche isn't geared for that. Your going to lose so many more.

I'm content to stay in the largely self sufficient, Antipodes.
 
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