Clive01 - Warlords Prince Conquest / Domination

When Alex is ready to capitulate, he will, so just keep up the pressure. Mopst of our happy problems are coming from the cities captured from the vassals (return to the motherland yearnings). Might as well beat it out of them.

You can tell a vassal what to do but they generally won't do it. Where have I heard that before?
 
Washington could crush Alex's ice city easily, but he would just sacrifice troops there and we'd face CG3 defenders when we get there to do the right job.
Unless the AI has MANY MORE troops than other AI, expect them to only do weird stuff at war...
 
whip away the unhappiness (what bede said). I'm an idiot and on prince I usually do it by converting all the citizens into artists until the city is size 1 (that presumes I'm in caste).

Khan then Stalin for the long term.
 
Ok, guys. I played 11 turns to even us this time.

Turn 339/460 (1929 AD)
:whipped: time. I can't remember a time when I used voluntaries that much. 13 cities, IIRC. And next turn was even more. I MM'ed a little to get Electricity this turn.

Turn 340/460 (1930 AD)
Electric power in, Industrialism next. Was pre-selected. I didn't find a reason to change. I did change something. I lowered the science slider back and put 10% to culture. Happiness problems solved!
American revolt in Boston. Didn't get this...

Turn 341/460 (1931 AD)
Madrid finishes West Point. We land on Alex's border.

Turn 342/460 (1932 AD)
The first thing that happened this time was this:

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What the hell was he thinking? Stalin asking for a tribute? :nono:
And then with the loss of a useless cannon:

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Calling Alex! Calling Alex!

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You can see how desperate he was. No, you can keep that useless city. Spain doesn't need it!
Our happiness issues are officially over!

Turn 343/460 (1933 AD)
Boston returns from revolt expanding borders! No longer a "threat"!
Speaking of threat, one of our happiness issues back then was the Emancipation demanding. Who's the only one with Democracy? Qin? Er... What do you think of....

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And there you go! We are too advanced for you!

Turn 344/460 (1934 AD)
One troop here, one theater there... Nothing happened... I'm kinda bored...

Turn 345/460 (1935 AD)
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Boredom issues solved!

Turn 346/460 (1936 AD)
I was closer to Stalin's "offshore colonies", if we can call them this way. So, this is what happened:

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Everybody to the ground!!!! I don't know what you think, but I think we don't need more cities!

Turn 347/460 (1937 AD)
Gathering our troops around. The transports are sailing through the world and picking one passenger at a time.

Turn 348/460 (1938 AD)
Havana begins: Wall Street (34 turns)
I don't know if we are going to ever finish this, but this is our first holy city and was getting us 94 GPT. I think this is the place for it.
I couldn't stop laughing when I realized some of our first cities were protected by WARRIORS at 1938 AD! And some others by a sole ARCHER! :lol:
Actually, this was something I exploited. I got a XBow and promoted him to Drill II before upgrading to an Infantry!

Turn 349/460 (1939 AD)
Look what we got:

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Pyramids.... Now you come... Well, we can now switch to Universal Suffrage without Democracy.

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A bonus.

Turn 350/460 (1940 AD)
First things first:

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And a amphibious assault made this happen:

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And this ended my turnset....
[Continued on next post...]
 
Some thoughts...

  • Sorry, AK. I always wanted to destroy Stalin as he's the weakest. In 5 turns he's down to one city. And it can be taken next turn.
  • Industrialism. That means TANKS. I queued one only, I think. Madrid is set on eternal Infantry building. I suggest next player change this to eternal Tank Building.
  • I set research to Artillery to get Rocketry and upgrade our cavalry to Gunships. But it may be better to get Flight instead and buy/whip some airports around. It'll be easier to provide our new tanks to get Genghis.
  • There are some transports near an island with two Mongol cities. It may be wise to get some to the northern ones before declaring on him. Send the destroyers to his mainland to prevent him from landing on our mainland. Our warriors would be toast if that happens! :lol:

I don't know if I should post a roster or not. It's a matter of who has the time to play now. It took me almost 3 hours to play this 11 turns. I may be slow, but I don't think you can be much faster. :p
So, what do you think of....

Roster
fbelintani - just played
The Sansman - played before him
negyvenketto - UP
Bede - UP
Admiral Kustov - UP
Sir Clive - UP

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Turn 339/460 (1929 AD) [02-May-2007 19:42:12]
Madrid begins: Coal Plant (3 turns)
Boston begins: Work Boat (3 turns)
Sparta begins: Theatre (13 turns)
Tech learned: Electricity
Madrid finishes: Coal Plant
Porkopolis finishes: Confucian Academy
Tortola finishes: Factory
Cheju finishes: Factory
Wonsan finishes: Bank
Beijing finishes: Transport
Nanjing grows: 4
Nanjing finishes: Library
Tianjin grows: 7
Cordoba finishes: Granary
San Francisco grows: 5
San Francisco finishes: Bank
Boston finishes: Work Boat
Atlanta finishes: Courthouse
Athens finishes: Theatre
Corinth finishes: Lighthouse

IBT:

Turn 340/460 (1930 AD) [02-May-2007 20:50:49]
Porkopolis begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Tortola begins: Transport (6 turns)
Cheju begins: Confucian Temple (7 turns)
Wonsan begins: Buddhist Temple (6 turns)
Beijing begins: Transport (6 turns)
Nanjing begins: Lighthouse (30 turns)
Cordoba begins: Courthouse (60 turns)
San Francisco begins: Theatre (25 turns)
Atlanta begins: Lighthouse (12 turns)
Athens begins: Lighthouse (10 turns)
Corinth begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Argos begins: Theatre (17 turns)
While attacking in Spanish territory at Knossos, Cavalry defeats (1.50/15): Greek Grenadier (Prob Victory: 70.3%)
Porkopolis finishes: Infantry
Cheju finishes: Confucian Temple
A Town was built near Shanghai
Guangzhou finishes: Cannon
Toledo grows: 7
Toledo finishes: Library
New York grows: 8
New York finishes: Confucian Temple
Atlanta's borders expand
Sparta's borders expand
Athens's borders expand
Argos finishes: Forge

IBT:

Turn 341/460 (1931 AD) [02-May-2007 21:07:25]
Porkopolis begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Cheju begins: Transport (14 turns)
Guangzhou begins: Cannon (5 turns)
Toledo begins: Lighthouse (4 turns)
New York begins: Jewish Temple (4 turns)
Cavalry promoted: Combat II
A Lumbermill was built near Barcelona
Madrid finishes: West Point
Panama City grows: 8
Namp'o finishes: Library
Chengdu finishes: Infantry
Atlanta grows: 7
Corinth's borders expand
Corinth finishes: Theatre

IBT:

Turn 342/460 (1932 AD) [02-May-2007 21:15:55]
Madrid begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Namp'o begins: Transport (10 turns)
Chengdu begins: Theatre (4 turns)
Corinth begins: Barracks (4 turns)
A Fishing Boats was built near Hangzhou
Cannon promoted: City Raider I
Cannon promoted: City Raider II
While attacking in Greek territory at Mycenae, Cannon loses to: Greek Machine Gun (18.00/18) (Prob Victory: 2.6%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Mycenae, 2nd Maceman of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (20.00/20): Greek Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Infantry promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Greek territory at Mycenae, Infantry defeats (15.40/20): Greek Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Mycenae, Infantry defeats (20.00/20): Greek Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Judaism has spread: Mycenae
Captured Mycenae (Alexander)
Razed Mycenae
Mycenae lost
PrinceTraining(Spain) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty
Wang Kon(Korea) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty
Qin Shi Huang(China) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty
Washington(America) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty
Team 3 becomes a Vassal State of Team 0
Seville grows: 8
Seville finishes: Bank
Hyangsan grows: 6
Hyangsan finishes: Bank
Seoul finishes: Buddhist Temple
Hangzhou grows: 4
Nanjing grows: 3
Nanjing finishes: Lighthouse
Tianjin finishes: Forge
Washington grows: 10
San Francisco finishes: Theatre
Boston's borders expand
Sparta finishes: Theatre
Athens finishes: Lighthouse
Argos finishes: Theatre

IBT:
State Religion Change: Washington(America) from 'Confucianism' to 'no State Religion'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Washington(America), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Wang Kon(Korea) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards PrinceTraining(Spain), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Qin Shi Huang(China), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Washington(America), from 'Furious' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Civics Change: Washington(America) from 'Theocracy' to 'Free Religion'

Turn 343/460 (1933 AD) [02-May-2007 21:32:50]
Hyangsan begins: Taoist Missionary (14 turns)
Seoul begins: Grocer (7 turns)
Nanjing begins: Theatre (25 turns)
Tianjin begins: Theatre (4 turns)
San Francisco begins: Harbor (20 turns)
Athens begins: Transport (5 turns)
Argos begins: Granary (10 turns)
A Fishing Boats was built near Boston
Infantry promoted: Combat II
Porkopolis finishes: Infantry
Tortola finishes: Transport
Chengdu grows: 9
Nanjing's borders expand
Tianjin finishes: Theatre
Toledo finishes: Lighthouse
San Francisco grows: 5
Boston grows: 7

IBT:
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Qin Shi Huang(China), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Civics Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) from 'Representation' to 'Hereditary Rule'
Civics Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) from 'Emancipation' to 'Slavery'

Turn 344/460 (1934 AD) [02-May-2007 21:49:49]
Porkopolis begins: Infantry (4 turns)
Tortola begins: Infantry (5 turns)
Tianjin begins: Library (13 turns)
Toledo begins: Theatre (3 turns)
2nd Crossbowman of Tortola (Crossbowman) promoted: Drill I
2nd Crossbowman of Tortola (Crossbowman) promoted: Drill II
Transport I of Beijing (Transport) promoted: Flanking I
Madrid finishes: Infantry
Barcelona grows: 11
Ivory Coast finishes: Infantry
Wonsan finishes: Buddhist Temple
Hyangsan finishes: Taoist Missionary
Chengdu finishes: Theatre
Hangzhou grows: 5
Nanjing grows: 4
Tianjin grows: 6
New York finishes: Jewish Temple
Boston's borders expand
Sparta grows: 6
Corinth finishes: Barracks
Argos's borders expand

IBT:

Turn 345/460 (1935 AD) [02-May-2007 22:00:02]
Madrid begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Ivory Coast begins: Transport (8 turns)
Wonsan begins: Confucian Temple (6 turns)
Hyangsan begins: Taoist Missionary (7 turns)
Chengdu begins: Infantry (9 turns)
New York begins: Barracks (4 turns)
Corinth begins: Confucian Temple (3 turns)
PrinceTraining(Spain) declares war on Stalin(Russia)
Wang Kon(Korea) declares war on Stalin(Russia)
Alexander(Greece) declares war on Stalin(Russia)
Qin Shi Huang(China) declares war on Stalin(Russia)
Washington(America) declares war on Stalin(Russia)
Taoism has spread: Wonsan
A Fishing Boats near Yakutsk was destroyed by Spanish 1st Frigate of Porkopolis (Destroyer)
While attacking in Russian territory near Moscow, Destroyer defeats (30.00/30): Russian Caravel (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Fishing Boats near Moscow was destroyed by Spanish Destroyer
While attacking just off shore near Kazan, Cavalry defeats (15.00/15): Russian Worker (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Russian territory near Novgorod, Frigate II (Destroyer) defeats (30.00/30): Russian Caravel (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Fishing Boats near Novgorod was destroyed by Spanish 2nd Frigate of Ivory Coast (Destroyer)
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, 2nd Frigate of Ivory Coast (Destroyer) defeats (30.00/30): Russian Caravel (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Cheju finishes: Transport
Namp'o finishes: Transport
Beijing grows: 12
Beijing finishes: Transport
New York grows: 9
Atlanta grows: 8
Atlanta finishes: Lighthouse
Argos finishes: Granary
Pharsalos finishes: Theatre
Knossos finishes: Theatre

IBT:
Attitude Change: Wang Kon(Korea) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Pleased' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards PrinceTraining(Spain), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Cautious' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Qin Shi Huang(China), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Washington(America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Civics Change: Wang Kon(Korea) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'
Civics Change: Stalin(Russia) from 'Representation' to 'Police State'
Civics Change: Stalin(Russia) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'

Turn 346/460 (1936 AD) [02-May-2007 22:17:40]
Cheju begins: Infantry (5 turns)
Namp'o begins: Infantry (6 turns)
Beijing begins: Destroyer (10 turns)
Atlanta begins: Forge (20 turns)
Argos begins: Library (18 turns)
Pharsalos begins: Courthouse (18 turns)
Knossos begins: Jewish Temple (9 turns)
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, 2nd Frigate of Ivory Coast (Destroyer) defeats (30.00/30): Russian Caravel (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking on the high seas near Toledo, Transport defeats (16.00/16): Russian Galleon (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Infantry I of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry I of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Pinch
Infantry promoted: Pinch
Infantry promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Russian territory at Smolensk, Infantry I of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (13.60/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 90.1%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Smolensk, Infantry defeats (17.00/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 96.0%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Smolensk, Infantry defeats (17.40/20): Russian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Smolensk, 2nd Crossbowman of Tortola (Infantry) defeats (16.80/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 92.8%)
Taoism has spread: Smolensk
Captured Smolensk (Stalin)
Razed Smolensk
Smolensk lost
4th Grenadier of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Chinese territory at Yakutsk, 4th Grenadier of Madrid (Infantry) defeats (17.40/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.4%)
While attacking in Chinese territory at Yakutsk, Infantry defeats (11.60/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Yakutsk, 1st Maceman of Madrid (Grenadier) loses to: Russian Rifleman (0.56/14) (Prob Victory: 90.1%)
While attacking in Chinese territory at Yakutsk, Longbowman defeats (6.00/6): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Captured Yakutsk (Stalin)
Razed Yakutsk
Yakutsk lost
While attacking in Russian territory at Vladivostok, Infantry defeats (8.80/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Vladivostok, Infantry defeats (12.20/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
Hinduism has spread: Vladivostok
Captured Vladivostok (Stalin)
Razed Vladivostok
Vladivostok lost
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Machine Gun promoted: Drill I
Machine Gun promoted: Drill II
Cavalry promoted: Flanking I
Cavalry promoted: Flanking II
A Fishing Boats near Moscow was destroyed by Spanish Frigate I (Destroyer)
Madrid finishes: Infantry
Porkopolis finishes: Infantry
Ivory Coast grows: 13
Seville finishes: Cannon
Guangzhou finishes: Cannon
Hangzhou grows: 6
Nanjing grows: 5
Toledo finishes: Theatre
San Francisco's borders expand
Boston finishes: Jewish Temple
Athens finishes: Transport

IBT:
Hinduism has spread: Los Angeles (American Empire)
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Washington(America), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Qin Shi Huang(China), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 347/460 (1937 AD) [02-May-2007 22:34:21]
Madrid begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Porkopolis begins: Infantry (4 turns)
Seville begins: Theatre (9 turns)
Guangzhou begins: Infantry (9 turns)
Toledo begins: Barracks (3 turns)
Boston begins: Barracks (7 turns)
Athens begins: Infantry (7 turns)
Transport I of Tortola (Transport) promoted: Flanking I
Transport I of Tortola (Transport) promoted: Navigation I
Havana finishes: Factory
Wonsan grows: 9
Hyangsan grows: 7
Seoul grows: 11
A Town was built near Beijing
Washington grows: 11
New York finishes: Barracks
Corinth finishes: Confucian Temple
Knossos finishes: Jewish Temple
A Town was built near Knossos

IBT:
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards Washington(America), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 348/460 (1938 AD) [02-May-2007 22:44:44]
Havana begins: Wall Street (34 turns)
New York begins: University (16 turns)
Corinth begins: Library (6 turns)
Knossos begins: Barracks (10 turns)
Madrid finishes: Infantry
Tortola finishes: Infantry
Shanghai finishes: Ironworks
Guangzhou grows: 4
Guangzhou finishes: Infantry
Hangzhou grows: 7
Nanjing grows: 6
San Francisco grows: 6
Atlanta grows: 9
Sparta grows: 7
Athens grows: 10
Argos grows: 4
Knossos's borders expand

IBT:
Civics Change: Alexander(Greece) from 'Vassalage' to 'Bureaucracy'
Civics Change: Alexander(Greece) from 'Mercantilism' to 'Free Market'

Turn 349/460 (1939 AD) [02-May-2007 22:54:35]
Madrid begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Tortola begins: Machine Gun (5 turns)
Shanghai begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Guangzhou begins: Infantry (9 turns)
A Pasture was built near Cordoba
A Lumbermill was built near Toledo
Infantry I of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry I of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Combat II
Infantry I of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Russian territory at Moscow, Infantry I of Madrid (Infantry) defeats (5.00/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
Infantry II of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry II of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Combat II
Infantry II of Madrid (Infantry) promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Russian territory at Moscow, Infantry II of Madrid (Infantry) defeats (17.00/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
Infantry II of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry II of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Combat II
While attacking in Russian territory at Moscow, Infantry II of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (14.80/20): Russian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
Infantry III of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry III of Porkopolis (Infantry) promoted: Combat II
While attacking in Russian territory at Moscow, Infantry III of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (5.60/20): Russian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Moscow, Infantry defeats (13.60/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Buddhism has spread: Moscow
Captured Moscow (Stalin)
Moscow begins: Theatre (50 turns)
Heinz Guderian (Great General) born in Tortola
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, 2nd Maceman of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (8.80/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
Infantry promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, Infantry defeats (13.60/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 95.4%)
Infantry promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, Infantry defeats (10.40/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 95.4%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, Cavalry defeats (12.60/15): Russian Grenadier (Prob Victory: 88.7%)
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, Cavalry defeats (8.70/15): Russian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.3%)
Buddhism has spread: Novgorod
Captured Novgorod (Stalin)
Razed Novgorod
Novgorod lost
Tech learned: Industrialism
Porkopolis finishes: Infantry
Seoul grows: 10
Beijing grows: 11
Chengdu grows: 10
Cordoba grows: 4
Toledo finishes: Barracks
Santiago grows: 2
Pharsalos's borders expand

IBT:
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Washington(America), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Civics Change: Stalin(Russia) from 'Police State' to 'Despotism'

Turn 350/460 (1940 AD) [02-May-2007 23:12:46]
Research begun: Artillery (5 Turns)
Porkopolis begins: Marine (4 turns)
Toledo begins: Tank (9 turns)
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Infantry defeats (4.00/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 90.1%)
Infantry I of Chengdu (Infantry) promoted: Combat I
Infantry I of Chengdu (Infantry) promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Infantry I of Chengdu (Infantry) defeats (17.00/20): Russian Grenadier (Prob Victory: 96.2%)
Infantry promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Infantry defeats (12.80/20): Russian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 69.2%)
Cannon promoted: City Raider I
Cannon promoted: City Raider II
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Cannon loses to: Russian Longbowman (0.96/6) (Prob Victory: 64.8%)
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Infantry defeats (15.20/20): Russian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Infantry defeats (20.00/20): Russian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Buddhism has spread: St. Petersburg
Captured St. Petersburg (Stalin)
Razed St. Petersburg
St. Petersburg lost
Cavalry promoted: Combat II


Nice game! :goodjob:
 

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Suprisingly we are quite far from domination, let's attack Khan ;)
I would like to see Sir Clive to pick it up, otherwise I can play at the weekend.
 
But it may be better to get Flight instead and buy/whip some airports around. It'll be easier to provide our new tanks to get Genghis.
I like this

Why do we need gunships? Khan has no tanks.
 
We could just turn research off now, revolt to Universal Suffrage and start the cash rushing frenzy.
Well, next player will surely have fun with 11 XP tanks from Madrid!
 
With fighters on aircraft carriers and tanks promoted up to Amphibious you can eat island cities for breakfast and take very few losses.

Quoth negy: Suprisingly we are quite far from domination, let's attack Khan

To get to domination on an islands map you have to settle a lot of little useless islands, conquest through vassals is the way to go.
 
Actually they can if you go up through the Combat promotions path rather than the City Raider or Collateral Damage path. IIRC tanks from a West Point city with at least one DI can get that far.
 
I'm pretty sure I had an amphib tank before.

Actually, the challenge would be to finish using only the forces we now have.
 
OK, I played 5 turns. Khan is quite advanced (infantry, destroyer), next player should be carefull how and where to attack. Artillery will be finished next turn :)
I tried to move our troops closer to the Mongols, not finished, yet.
I haven't promoted the tanks, yet. If you manage to give them Amphibious, please post a screenshot to bug report thread, 'cos according to the manual, armor units can't get it ;)

Stalin capitulated, 1 more to go :)
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As for the economy, I made a lot of trades for gpt
prince38.JPG


Spoiler :

Turn 350/460 (1940 AD) [06-May-2007 18:51:26]
Havana begins: Tank (10 turns)
Seville begins: Tank (30 turns)
Santiago begins: Theatre (50 turns)
New York begins: Machine Gun (10 turns)
Cordoba begins: Work Boat (5 turns)
Infantry I of Tortola (Infantry) promoted: City Garrison I
Infantry I of Tortola (Infantry) promoted: City Garrison II
Tortola finishes: Military Academy
Havana grows: 13
Panama City finishes: Courthouse
Tortola finishes: Machine Gun
Cheju finishes: Infantry
Namp'o finishes: Infantry
Wonsan grows: 8
Wonsan finishes: Confucian Temple
Yaroslavl' grows: 6
Yaroslavl' finishes: Bank
Nanjing grows: 6
Nanjing finishes: Theatre
Tianjin grows: 7
Washington finishes: Forge

IBT:
State Religion Change: Stalin(Russia) from 'Buddhism' to 'Judaism'

Turn 351/460 (1941 AD) [06-May-2007 19:22:40]
Tortola begins: Tank (6 turns)
Cheju begins: Tank (6 turns)
Namp'o begins: Tank (8 turns)
Wonsan begins: Market (19 turns)
Yaroslavl' begins: Harbor (20 turns)
Washington begins: Machine Gun (125 turns)
A Plantation was built near Cordoba
Infantry promoted: Pinch
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Pinch
Infantry promoted: Combat I
Infantry promoted: Pinch
Transport I of Cheju (Transport) promoted: Combat I
Boston begins: Machine Gun (125 turns)
Machine Gun promoted: Drill I
Machine Gun promoted: Drill II
Transport I of Namp'o (Transport) promoted: Combat I
Madrid begins: Infantry (3 turns)
Madrid finishes: Infantry
Barcelona finishes: Factory
Ivory Coast finishes: Transport
Hyangsan finishes: Taoist Missionary
A Town was built near Yaroslavl'
Shanghai finishes: Infantry
Hangzhou grows: 8
Cordoba finishes: Work Boat
Boston grows: 8
Argos grows: 5

IBT:

Turn 352/460 (1942 AD) [06-May-2007 20:01:21]
Barcelona begins: Tank (10 turns)
Ivory Coast begins: Battleship (15 turns)
Hyangsan begins: Cannon (17 turns)
Shanghai begins: Cannon (2 turns)
Shanghai begins: Tank (4 turns)
A Mine was built near Cordoba
Madrid begins: Tank (3 turns)
Nanjing begins: Barracks (25 turns)
A Fishing Boats was built near Cordoba
Havana finishes: Tank
Tortola finishes: Tank
Cheju finishes: Tank
Namp'o finishes: Tank
Yaroslavl' grows: 7
Hangzhou finishes: Lighthouse
Tianjin finishes: Library
Cordoba's borders expand
Washington grows: 9
New York grows: 7
New York finishes: Machine Gun
San Francisco grows: 6
San Francisco finishes: Harbor
Boston finishes: Machine Gun
Atlanta grows: 7
Atlanta finishes: Forge
Sparta grows: 8
Athens grows: 11
Athens finishes: Infantry
Corinth's borders expand
Corinth finishes: Library

IBT:

Turn 353/460 (1943 AD) [06-May-2007 20:36:11]
Havana begins: Tank (10 turns)
Tortola begins: Tank (6 turns)
Cheju begins: Tank (6 turns)
Namp'o begins: Tank (8 turns)
Hangzhou begins: Barracks (17 turns)
Tianjin begins: Barracks (8 turns)
San Francisco begins: Barracks (10 turns)
Boston begins: Machine Gun (125 turns)
Atlanta begins: Barracks (5 turns)
Athens begins: Tank (8 turns)
Corinth begins: Tank (10 turns)
Boston begins: Library (90 turns)
PrinceTraining(Spain) and Stalin(Russia) have signed a peace treaty
Wang Kon(Korea) and Stalin(Russia) have signed a peace treaty
Alexander(Greece) and Stalin(Russia) have signed a peace treaty
Qin Shi Huang(China) and Stalin(Russia) have signed a peace treaty
Washington(America) and Stalin(Russia) have signed a peace treaty
Team 5 becomes a Vassal State of Team 0
Machine Gun promoted: Drill I
Machine Gun promoted: Drill II
Porkopolis finishes: Marine
Cheju grows: 13
Beijing grows: 12
Beijing finishes: Destroyer
Chengdu finishes: Infantry
Nanjing grows: 7
Sparta finishes: Courthouse
Argos grows: 6
Knossos finishes: Barracks

IBT:

Turn 354/460 (1944 AD) [06-May-2007 20:48:46]
Porkopolis begins: Cannon (3 turns)
Beijing begins: Tank (8 turns)
Chengdu begins: Tank (12 turns)
Sparta begins: Barracks (7 turns)
Knossos begins: Tank (15 turns)
Destroyer promoted: Combat I
Madrid finishes: Tank
Panama City grows: 8
Hyangsan grows: 8
Shanghai finishes: Tank
Hangzhou grows: 8
Argos grows: 7

IBT:

Turn 355/460 (1945 AD) [06-May-2007 20:55:51]
Madrid begins: Tank (3 turns)
Shanghai begins: Tank (4 turns)


The save
 
I am on the case. Khaaaaan!
 
God how I love a spot of Modern warfare in this game.

Not much happened until I finsihed playing 52 pick up with the fleet and getting everything pointed at Mongolia. First the island to our north with Tabriz, then the island just east of the Mongol island (Otrar),

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and finally another gtoup at Old Sarai on the western tip of Mongolia south of Karakorum.

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Tabriz was chosen to deny Khan a bolt hole just off our shores, Otrar as a handy staging post for the invasion in force of Mongolia, and Old Sarai to keep his forces at Karakorum bottled up and preventing them from reinforcing the Mongolian east.

ANd away we go with everybody in place in 1952,

First a naval battle
While attacking on the high seas near Hovd, Old Sarai Group (Destroyer) defeats (30.00/30): Mongolian Transport (Prob Victory: 99.3%)

That transport was probably empty and on a net pillaging mission but he sailed into the gunsights,


Battle for Tabriz
While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tabriz, Tank defeats (2.80/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 72.3%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tabriz, 1st Tank (Tank) loses to: Mongolian Infantry (11.20/20) (Prob Victory: 76.9%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tabriz, Tank defeats (19.04/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 99.1%)

Tabriz captured.

Battle for Ortrar
While attacking in Mongolian territory at Otrar, Trebuchet I of Porkopolis (Artillery) loses to: Mongolian Infantry (20.00/20) (Prob Victory: 14.0%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Otrar, Artillery defeats (10.44/18): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 31.5%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Otrar, Tank defeats (4.48/28): Mongolian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 98.3%)

Captured Otrar


Opening Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 5
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 2
Units defeated while defending : 0

Battle for Old Sarai

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Old Sarai, Tank loses to: Mongolian Infantry (12.40/20) (Prob Victory: 33.6%). That tank had CR and collateral damage promotions to soften up the garrison for the follow on armor.

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Old Sarai, Tank defeats (23.80/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 96.9%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Old Sarai, Tank defeats (2.80/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 90.2%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Old Sarai, 2nd Maceman of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (4.80/20): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 88.5%)

Captured Old Sarai (Genghis Khan)

Mongolian Homeland Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 3
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 1
Units defeated while defending : 0

Finally flight comes in and this is what I have been waiting for. Once Combustion and Industrialization are learned artillery become almost useless, especially on an island map. And once Flight is known the only known use for artillery is homeland defense with collateral damage promotions to deal with landings. As battle supprt they take up space and limit mobility of tanks. Carrier battle groups with destroyers and transports with tanks with CR 1 & 2 and Collateral Damage promotions are the winning combination with maybe some artilery to protect wounded assault groups. I thought I could get to Amphib tanks through Combat 1 & 2 but can't quite get there anymore. I know I used them to great effect in Civ4, maybe they took it out in Warlords.


Madrid begins: Carrier (3 turns)
Havana begins: Fighter (5 turns)
Porkopolis begins: Fighter (2 turns)
Cheju begins: Fighter (3 turns)
Tortola begins: Fighter (4 turns)
Toledo begins: Fighter (4 turns)
Namp'o begins: Fighter (4 turns)
Beijing begins: Fighter (4 turns)
Athens begins: Fighter (4 turns)

I begin training up the first of many aircraft and carriers to get them to the battlefield.


Meanwhile in Mongolia the Battle of Turfan

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The salvo destroyers and transports are already on the way to the site of the next battle

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Artillery loses to: Mongolian Infantry (17.20/20) (Prob Victory: 0.9%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, 1st Cannon of Seville (Artillery) loses to: Mongolian Infantry (6.00/20) (Prob Victory: 5.5%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Cannon I of Guangzhou (Artillery) loses to: Mongolian Infantry (0.40/20) (Prob Victory: 20.7%)


While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, 4th Tank (Tank) defeats (20.16/28): Mongolian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 97.3%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Tank loses to: Mongolian Infantry (5.80/20) (Prob Victory: 90.7%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Marine defeats (8.64/24): Mongolian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 86.6%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Infantry I of Porkopolis (Infantry) defeats (16.20/20): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 99.6%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, 5th Tank (Tank) defeats (28.00/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 100.0%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Turfan, 5th Tank (Tank) defeats (28.00/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 100.0%)

Captured Turfan (Genghis Khan)


Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 6
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 4
Units defeated while defending : 0


There was a little sideshow at Tiflis SW of Sparta in 1956, not one of my better choices but again I really didn't want a Mongolian bolt-hole close to our shores.

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tiflis, Infantry III of Madrid (Infantry) loses to: Mongolian Machine Gun (8.82/18) (Prob Victory: 15.6%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tiflis, Grenadier loses to: Mongolian Machine Gun (8.82/18) (Prob Victory: 34.7%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tiflis, Infantry loses to: Mongolian Machine Gun (1.98/18) (Prob Victory: 83.2%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Tiflis, 4th Grenadier of Madrid (Infantry) defeats (16.60/20): Mongolian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 100.0%)

Captured Tiflis (Genghis Khan)

In 1957 the Mongol finally draws some real blood as he sinks a transport group waiting for escort in the offing at Barcelona

And in 1957 engineer Broadway in Cheju-town to keep circuses on hand for the natives while we dismember Mongolia.

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The Spanish respond to Khan's dastardly predations by putting those planes to use in the battle for Ning-Hsia in 1958

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The artillery is not needed for this attack as the destroyers can work that out while the ground troops get into postion, culminating in a group barrage that drops the defenses as the closing salvo, after the ground troops land. And if aircraft are in range, as they should be since carriers never travel without destroyer, or even better, battlewagon support, the planes can contribute by striking at the defenders as a softening up measure while the transports position themselves. Fighters make lousy bombers so I never use the "Bomb" command, just send them on Strafing missions.


While attacking in Mongolian territory at Ning-hsia, Tank defeats (23.24/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 88.0%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Ning-hsia, 10th Tank (Tank) defeats (28.00/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 99.5%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Ning-hsia, 10th Tank (Tank) defeats (28.00/28): Mongolian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 99.9%)

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And the Mongolian destroyers that sank the transports get sunk by the battlewagon escorts just arriving on the scene of the crime.

Ad in 1960

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while beginning to move armor and artillery to attack Karakorum

The target was chosen because of the furs that will be on hand just as the Spanish Empire begins to really feel the cold winds of war.


While attacking in Mongolian territory at Beshbalik, Tank defeats (19.60/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 97.7%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Beshbalik, 2nd Tank (Tank) defeats (17.92/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 86.6%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Beshbalik, 5th Tank (Tank) defeats (7.00/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 95.8%)

While attacking in Mongolian territory at Beshbalik, 4th Tank (Tank) defeats (28.00/28): Mongolian Infantry (Prob Victory: 99.1%)


And here is the Khan's response to all the bloodshed

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I have marked up the map again, no circles, just arrows, and little signs by way of explanation, no access to the back.

Domestically there is little to do, keep an eye on island defense but I think I sunk most of Khan's navy when Turfan was captured. He does have a couple of destroyer wolf packs a-prowling but all they can do is tear up fishing nets.

This should end pretty soon, well within the admiral's forty turn challenge.

Nice fun game, you all, let's do it again sometime and start the conquesting a mite earlier. There are some tactical lessons that need reinforcing as well :mischief:
 
Zoom out to the high level satellite view and the last icon on the left of the little toolbar is the "Strategy Layer". That brings up a menu that lets you draw lines, make signs, and also delete the ones already on the map. It is a pretty crude tool but it works.
 
Zoom out to the high level satellite view and the last icon on the left of the little toolbar is the "Strategy Layer". That brings up a menu that lets you draw lines, make signs, and also delete the ones already on the map. It is a pretty crude tool but it works.

Cool, I can't wait to try out. :king:
 
no really, you don't have to zoom out to make signs, just use alt + s. then alt + s them again to make them go away.
 
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