Cloning is soooo CUTE!

[Lefty Scaevola]

CC the kitten is just blowing away the anti-cloners. What a great PR move. Did you see that little dickens plaing in the beaker?!? This is going to be a warthquake size move in public opinion. Catholic mothers in Texas now want there children to go to TAMU and learn how to clone kittens.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Ah, if only all the cloning results were that cute, except Bill Gates #2 would look rather strange with fur and a bell around his neck...

 

[Ren]

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But seriously I don't see a problem with cloning if:

• They are treated the same as normal animals
• They don't have some painful disease or problwm because of their origins

 

[CrazyScientist]

Originally posted by ren
But seriously I don't see a problem with cloning if:

• They are treated the same as normal animals
• They don't have some painful disease or problwm because of their origins

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I would tend to agree with you. As to your points...

1)I see no reason why cloned animals should be treated differently. They are the same as other animals, just conceived in a different way.

2) Cloning could not increase suceptibility to genetic disease on the first generation. If the clone survived, then it is genetically identical to the animal from which it was cloned, so it shouldn't have genetic diseases unless its "parent" did as well. Problems would only arise if you continually make clones from clones from clones, because the errors in the genome will accumulate with each sucessive generation.
As to other diseases, like bacterial or viral infection, the clone should be no more or less suceptible to such diseases than the "parent".

 

[Becka]

Thankfully, I'm not a cat person, so this PR move will pass right over me like water off a duck's back.

 

[eyrei]

Why would anybody clone a cat? Aren't there already enough of the little ****s! I understand it is in the interest of advancing genetic research, but a CAT! Sorry, I guess I just don't like cats.

 

[godot]

This is interesting to me because my friend is president of a company that is involved in cloning.

Can anyone tell me if the cloners were from Texas A&M?

 

[polymath]

Sooner or later it will start acting like something out of The Thing

 

[Magnus]

A person spends a godawful amount of money to clone their favorite kitty.

While millions upon millions of strays are killed unwanted and unloved every year.

Something wrong here.

 

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by ren
They don't have some painful disease or problwm because of their origins

*ahem*

 

[dannyevilcat]

Hey, what's the matter with cats? They're so cute, playful and full of malice and evil (at least mine is).

What better animal to clone? They will spread out and become more dangerous than Al-Quaeda.

 

[Ren]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


*ahem*

Don't ahem me, I said IF

 

[CrazyScientist]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


*ahem*

Quite an interesting article, although you'll notice they say there is zero evidence as yet that Dolly's ailment has anything to with her being a clone.
Although it does make you think.....
I guess it definitely needs to be approached with care, but mainly because it is such a volatile issue with people that they will jump on any little thing.

 

[Zwelgje]

I am a biomedical researcher and personally I am in favour of cloning but I am not in favour of making a clone. Let me explain. When you clone you can make a little embryo in which various organs evolve. If the person who you are cloning is having troubles with his liver and its not a genetic thing you can take out the liver from the embryo and put it in the person who you cloned from. The embryo obviously dies and the person who you cloned from hopefully developes a working liver. This was just an example of something that might be possible.
Now if you talk about cloning a complete animal there is a problem. What you do is that you take an egg-cell from a mother-animal and take out the nucleus which contains the DNA. You put in the nucleus of the animal you want to clone and the egg-cell goes back into the mother and with some playing around this egg-cell will evolve in a complete animal. The problem is that the nucleus contains a huge amount of DNA but not all, in mitochondria (a little thing inside a cell) contains DNA as well and this is not replaced so the clones are genetically not equal to the animal which was cloned from. Further on you are using old DNA: DNA in your body changes, all kinds of mistakes are being build in through the years and these mistakes are being brought over to the clone.
All in all there are too many problems in cloning to able to say that cloning can be done safely to produce a healthy animal.

 

[TrailblazingScot]

I'm cloning my cats as I speak!

Ain't this the cutest picture ever!!!
More seriously America's reluctance over cloning etc due to te religious nut lobby means Britain will be reversing the brain-drain in this field at least

 

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DamnCommie
Quite an interesting article, although you'll notice they say there is zero evidence as yet that Dolly's ailment has anything to with her being a clone.

It is the early onset of the disease and the fact that it is appearing in a different location than what is usual that is raising the red flags.

 

[Ohwell]

They CLONED a cat!

There are so many cats killed each year in shelters! Can't we get one of them???

MY poor cat is not going to want to hear this... cloning is so unethical. We spend billoins on cloning research when we could be spending those rescources on more useful topics.

 

[CurtSibling]

I wish people would cut the crap about cloning be "bad" and "unethical"...

Cloned organs would have probably saved both my
grandmothers and my mother from an untimely death.

Also too many good people who died needlessly from cancer, etc
would not refuse a chance for prolonged life, to spend more time
with their family...

I don't care for christian principles on this cloning matter,
where have princibles ever got us?

Enhance our life, any way we can!!!

 

[Ohwell]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I wish people would cut the crap about cloning be "bad" and "unethical"...

Cloned organs would have probably saved both my
grandmothers and my mother from an untimely death.

Also too many good people who died needlessly from cancer, etc
would not refuse a chance for prolonged life, to spend more time
with their family...

I don't care for christian principles on this cloning matter,
where have princibles ever got us?

Enhance our life, any way we can!!!

Sorry, unethical was a bad word choice. It should have been "insignificant". I have a large hatred foer christian principles and such, but cloning should only be done on humans, because that is our goal. How would a cat liver have helped your mother? If it was a human being cloned, it would have helped. But cloning isn't needed much, although other genetic engineering would be nice.

Once you die, your clone doesn't have your thoughts... it is a dfferent organism, so if like you said, your friend died, you could talk to their clone instead. Their clone is a different person. Clonign wouldn't enhance life, but other genetic engineering types would.

 

[CurtSibling]

Ohwell,
What I meant was cloning organs and vital part of bodies...
A full human is another question entirely,,,
A cat? well...they have to test the tech on something.

On loning humans...
A human is unique, and the problem is that if your friend was
cloned he would not have had the same life as the previous
version of himself...the life that shaped him into what he is.
But he may react to certain situations in the same way,
It's an interesting thought....

But the scientists should prioritise this technology,
Save people with new vital organs transplants!