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Clown Car IV: The Dotard and Dunce Parade

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by hobbsyoyo, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Obama administration's legal problems? Did I miss some indictments?
     
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  2. Estebonrober

    Estebonrober Warlord

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    Certain posters here have been contemplating dreams of Obama's demise since 08.
     
  3. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    Don't you remember their fielding a candidate who wasn't born on the soil of the U.S. of A.?
     
  4. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    Not yet. The just appointed a US Attorney to look into the irregularities. Still, the stink of fear is getting strong. Comey and Brennan are trading barbs and tossing accusations. Both are central to the scandal.

    Paul Ryan was better than Nancy Pelosi. It's a low standard so Ryan could clear it.

    With 535 members of congress, you should be astonished if some of the Republicans were not better than some of the Democrats and vice versa. There is an article on the 35 most useless members with Iowa Republican Steve King the very worst. It's a fair assortment of dreck from both parties, with one independent mixed in.
    http://scribol.com/news-and-politics/politics/least-effective-members-congress/

    J
     
  5. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    I think that might just be Trump's diapers.
     
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  6. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    But Bonespurs would run in unarmed, during a school shooting like a real true hero
     
  7. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    "Hope not."
    -- Trump, asked if we are going to war with Iran
     
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  8. AdrienIer

    AdrienIer Chieftain

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    This is probably the stupidest list I've ever seen. It's mostly democratic congressmen who have mostly if not only been in congress under republican leadership. Of course they'll have a hard time getting bills passed in committee.
     
  9. rah

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    Yes being scored oh how much you go along with a Republican congress seems a bit biased. (just in case the percentage of Democrats on the list made you wonder)
     
  10. cardgame

    cardgame Sensual Kitten

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    If we're talking about effectiveness then Pelosi is miles ahead of Paul Ryan. I'm talking about something else... more how bad they are as people than how bad they are as legislators. There is certainly overlap, but it has very little to do with efficiency.
     
  11. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    Attack an ally of Putin's? I don't think even AIPAC has that power.

    It's not particularly gladdening that we're depending on an evil vs. evil confrontation to prevent large-scale warfare.
     
  12. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    Weren't you recently arguing that Putin was happy for Trump to attack his allies in Venezuela because it would cause exploitable chaos? What makes this different?
     
  13. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Kushner and Trumps money transactions were flagged by Automatic money laundering program, employees then looked at them and reported them to higher ups recommended these be reported to Feds for investigations
    Large sums of money were moving from Kushners account to Russian accounts

     
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  14. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    Oh yes, but that's the last possible option. If you look at what Trump's actually been doing rather than saying (same as his supposed trade war with the evil Mexicans who will pay for the wall by not paying taxes on steel imports to the US) So far Trump's been acting in favour of Maduro while (by) pretending to be the usual warmonger. His officials prematurely fingered the waverers in Maduro's military which gave him time to neutralise them, his government is refusing to help the Venezuelan government they recognise as legitimate from saving Citgo for being turned over to the Russian creditors of the government they call illegitimate for a pittance, and once Maduro's opponents started saying that foreign military intervention was acceptable after all there still was no action.
    So that, right there, is exploiting chaos. The investigations on the Cuban government hiring out slave-doctors are also at a standstill, and so on.

    Going by that example, you'll have the same on Iran. The US could have picked on the Iranian operatives and warships sent to Venezuela but didn't, and hasn't Trump been refusing to apply sanctions imposed by Congress already?


    (and, mods, this is on-topic because we are discussing US policy)
     
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  15. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    I call BS. There are no worse examples of humanity than Bill and Hillary Clinton. Even the Donald is a fine specimen in comparison. The Democrats were the ones covering up for everything the Clintons did.

    FWIW I would rather have Ryan in my neighborhood than Pelosi. She creeps me out.

    J

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  16. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Well he did have an extra marital affair and we all know how Evangelicals wont stand for that.
    /s
     
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  17. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    Bingeley bingeley beep!

    Iran threat has ‘diminished‘ says acting US defence secretary
    Patrick Shanahan credits US show of force
    Remarks appear to be a sign tension is easing


    The acting US defence secretary has claimed that the alleged threat from Iran has receded as the result of an American show of force in the Middle East.

    “We’ve put on hold the potential for attacks on Americans,” Patrick Shanahan told reporters before briefing Congress on the situation in the Persian Gulf and the military deployments that the US said were a response to a danger of imminent attack.

    The arrival of an aircraft carrier and its accompanying ships was recently accelerated, and B-52 bombers were sent to Qatar. Tensions increased with mysterious sabotage attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf, and drone strikes on Saudi oil installations, claimed by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen.

    Nerves in the region were put even more on edge on Sunday by Donald Trump’s tweeted threat that any conflict with the US would mean “the official end of Iran”.

    The remarks from Shanahan appeared to be a sign that tensions were easing.

    Asked what he meant by saying that the threat was “on hold”, the acting defence secretary said: “There haven’t been any attacks on Americans. I would consider that a hold.

    “That doesn’t mean that the threats that we’ve previously identified have gone away,” Shanahan added. “Our prudent response, I think, has given the Iranians time to recalculate. I think our response was a measure of our will and our resolve that we will protect our people and our interests in the region.”

    The Trump administration did not make public the intelligence it claimed showed an imminent Iranian threat to the US in the Middle East.

    An investigation is under way into the sabotage attacks on four oil tankers off the coast of the United Arab Emirates last week. The UK and Norway are helping the US with the inquiry, which was expected to report on Monday, but has been delayed for reasons that have not made clear.

    One of the tankers attacked was Norwegian-flagged. The secretary of state, spoke on Tuesday with the country’s foreign minister, Ine Søreide, about the incident.

    A European diplomat said: “We are very careful not to make attribution for recent attacks unless we are certain.”

    Officials briefing the media have also claimed that overhead photography showed missiles being loaded on to dhows on the Iranian coast, and chatter about potential attacks on US facilities and personnel in Iraq. The state department withdrew non-essential staff from its embassy in Baghdad and consulate in Erbil.

    It was unclear what Iran’s aim was supposed to be in loading missiles on to dhows. Experts said that it would be very difficult to fire a missile from a small boat and if the intelligence reports were true, it was more likely they were being shipped to the Houthi movement in Yemen, or moved for safekeeping.

    Later reports suggested that the Iranian military deployments and discussion of targets could have been contingency measures for a possible response in the event of a US attack on Iran, seen as increasingly likely in recent months with the apparent ascendancy of John Bolton, the ultra-hawk national security adviser, in foreign policymaking.

    The secretary of state, Mike Pompeo and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Joseph Dunford, were expected to brief the House and Senate on Iran on Tuesday afternoon. Bolton was not on the list of speakers.

    “My take is that the Iranians saw an attack coming and they prepared to strike back and that caused alarm in the White House and particularly with the president,” said Trita Parsi, founder of the National Iranian American Council, who now teaches at Georgetown University.
    “The line sold to Trump by Bolton and Bibi Netanyahu and Mohammed bin Salman is he could strike Iran, show US dominance, and not risk anything. Iran showed it was preparing to strike back. Trump is smart enough to know that a war would be devastating, and not just for his political interests.”

    Behnam Ben Taleblu, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, argued that the current defusing of tensions showed that the US response had worked.

    “The entire point behind America’s military repositioning in the region was to dampen the prospects of escalation,” Taleblu said. “And while it may have worked for now, Washington will need to make sure its message of resolve is similarly interpreted in the future. The Iranians have a habit of continually testing for weaknesses and deficiencies.”​

    Trump will betray anybody who thinks he'll be their ally. He promised help to Brexit Britain. He left Assad's Kurdish enemies in the lurch. Michael Bloomberg said that, if he was going to run the US as he did his businesses, ‘God help [the U.S. of A.!’ and he was spot on.

    btw how much fire and fury has North Korea received?
     
  18. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    "The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."
    -- Trump
     
  19. Old Hippy

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    --Democrat governor writing Trumps speech... ''And then the doctor and the mother determine whether ...''
    ...just saying

     
  20. Arakhor

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    Moderator Action: Let's not turn this thread into a fight about abortion, thank you very much.
     
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