Clown Car IV: The Dotard and Dunce Parade

If you've seen liberals embrace the surveillance state too whats the problem?

You're confused, Barack Obama was the President of peace. They even gave him an award and money and a celebration for all to see the great peacemaker.

I imagine its hiding with the left's distrust of Uncle Sam's spies

 

And here I thought that Republicans were also big on the "Law and Order"
we went from Trump praising the FBI (after helping him get elected) to calling them "traitors" (lol)

 

What planet is that from? Republicans on this planet never say that. I'm curious who is supposedly saying it? Trump is claiming asked and answered.

The family values crown appear to be happy at the moment. Fiscal responsibility people are gung ho. We fixed some glaring holes in our tax code and the economy and tax receipts are benefiting. If you are a Republican, Trump has been a very good President.

Yup. Also on laws that apply to both parties and that spying on Americans is illegal.

Ouch. That makes the Obama administration Big Brother.

Try Brazil. Here is your form 27B-6.

J

 

and the world turns ... and we are back again with the left calling them crooked... because Trump is big on law...

 

He found out they were spying on him because the Democrats used Obama's DoJ to 'lock him up'.

 

What dose that even mean ? Larger deficits are better ????
I think its wonderful that evangelicals have embraced Trump as their champion so much for bearing false witness, false idols and converting other women
Enjoy your tax cuts, the US once again spending Billions for the rich while Ghina invest in education, infrastructure and research

Laws only apply to democrats, (see using private emails for government business)

Trump university says hi

 

The Steele Dossier was a fraud too and somehow it became the basis for spying on Carter Page

 

You have two wrong statements in your post.

 

The Steele Dossier was right about Page and wasn't the basis for spying on him?

 

From 1 minute on google:
“If you haven’t done anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide”
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee

 

The problem with correcting you is that it never actually changes what you believe. It wasn't the basis but no matter how many times this is pointed out to you, you ignore it.

How about you read the FISA warrant application, and report back to us everything it says about the factual basis for the warrant?

 

Link? I've read several articles claiming the dossier appears in the application along with the FBI's endorsement of Steele, so what are you saying? The dossier wasn't used to justify the warrants on Page? That would be news to me.

maybe the Mueller thread would be more appropriate

 

Link?

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-justice-department-releases-carter-page-fisa-application

Thats to the actual redacted application, If you want articles, just google Steele Dossier and Carter Page FISA warrant

pages 15-16 describe source #1 as working for Trump's opponent

 

Since you clearly are aware of the Lawfare site, I would highly recommend you read through the many articles published there on the topic of Carter Page's FISA application, and that based on the publicly available information, Page was surveilled in accordance with the procedures and expectations of the FISA court. Whatever your opinions on how FISA applications are handled, that is a completely different matter.

 

Who is source #1?

 

I don't remember. Why don't you look at the FISA application yourself?

 

So you knew who source #1 was but forgot? I did read the first 15-16 pages but the person was described indirectly as an employee of an opponent of Trump.

Then the power went out and I haven't gotten back to the app

 

its redacted... It has to be declassified first... I do remember how when Trump wanted to declassify it and how it was a red line and would be considered obstruction of the Mueller investigation... Trump cannot obstruct the Mueller investigation now... the republican reps who have seen it are calling for its public release...
Trump has this week tasked the DOJ AG to release it...

 

Here's a link to the Carter Page FISA application. You can see for yourself on what bases the FBI applied for a warrant, what justification they had apart from the dossier for believing he was a foreign agent.