Combining culture with conquest + autocracy

RealHuhn

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In CiV 5 culture actually has a huge influence besides expansion because with every social policy you basically get a wonder for free!

So why not combine culture and conquest instead of science and conquest?

Your general goal:
Big Ben ("-25% Gold cost for purchasing items in cities, additional +2 Culture per
Specialist in all Cities") +
Mercantilism (Commerce tree, "Purchasing items in cities requires 25% less Gold") +
Militarism (Autocracy tree, "Gold cost of purchasing units reduced by 33%")

What do we get from this? Units are cheaper than city states :king:
Some examples:
Rifleman: 220 :commerce:
Cavalry: 270 :commerce:
Artillery: 390 :commerce:
Infantry: 300 :commerce: !!!
Atomic Bomb: 640 :commerce: :eek:

So that's just awesome. City focus on gold and purchase multiple units per turn with your GPT + great merchants.

Other advantages of Autocracy
:

Autocracy ("-33% Gold Maintenance cost for Units")
Police State ("-50% Unhappiness in Occupied Cities"):
Capture a city, wait a few turns until the revolt's over and annex. Your unhappiness will be increased by maybe 1 ;) Then you can purchase one unit per turn right at the front line (or multiple atomic bombs if you feel fancy :nuke:).

I guarantee you, you'll blitz away your enemies!
I've only tried this strategy once with Egypt on emperor, small continents, standart speed.

Wonders:
Stonehenge, Oracle, Sistine Chapel (+33 % culture is huge), Porcelain Tower (you need every GS you can get), maybe Taj Mahal and of course Big Ben!

Social Policies
:
* I opted for the +33% wonder bonus first,
* then went with Piety tree (Egypt has a lot of happiness because of their UB burial tomb (+2 happiness) -> "Mandate of Heaven" + "Theocracy" is pretty good for culture),
* followed by Commerce -> Mercantilism and Autocracy (available with artillery)

My conquest started at 1670 (turn 244) which is quite late but you don't have to waste any turns on production. I won around 1880 (I nuked england with 10 atomic bombs :lol:).
@1670 I just had 4 cities (don't expand too much because culture costs will explode)
Here are two safe files if you want to see it in action (1st one: beginning of conquest, 2nd one: at the end, nuke fun :))

I'm sure, you can win much quicker. I didn't abuse it 100%. And the balance between science and culture could have been better as well but for the first try, I was more than happy ^^
Oh and one obvious thing I completely forgot to mention: Build culture buildings instead of science buildings (although you should have one large city dedicated to science).
 

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I was doing something very similar today with Egypt. I got the first few SPs from Piety, then saved up a lot, filled out everything but the 2 free SPs one, waited for Commerce and got the +3 for coastal cities, then rushed to Biology. At that point, I picked the 2 free SPs, and got Autocracy, Order, and the right side of Autocracy up to and including Police State.

I did not get Stonehenge (went GL --> Oracle), and was beaten to Taj Mahal. The rest of the Wonders are identical to yours.

Interesting that we were both doing the exact same thing. I'm really enjoying my game. I can pretty much Annex everything and just keep buying armies.

My city expansion went something like this: settle 4 cities, get a few SPs, conquer Napoleon, get some more SPs, build 2 settlers, get SPs before making new cities, go on to the next war. Right now, I almost have enough to go straight for Communism so I think that's my next step.

Out of curiosity, what prompted you to go this route? Personally I saw the recent Autocracy thread here, and wanted to devise something where I would actually use Autocracy. Came up with the same thing you did :)
 

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Out of curiosity, what prompted you to go this route? Personally I saw the recent Autocracy thread here, and wanted to devise something where I would actually use Autocracy. Came up with the same thing you did :)

You got me there :)

Which units did you rushbuy? Longswords?
 

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Which units did you rushbuy? Longswords?

No, I'm slow. I had Biology before Bronze Working. I play on a Giant map (mod) with 14 AI and 28 CSs. It was a Small Continents map, and when I set that to Giant, sometimes it takes a long time to reach my first victim.

I had Pikemen before Horsemen, so Napoleon went down to a combination of those two.
Siam wiped out Monty, so they moved to the head of the line. I started on them with Knights, then Cavalry, and finished with Mechanized Infantry. I rush bought normal Infantry units - halted the war a little until I had Replaceable Parts.
 
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