Community Asian Ship Project

[Wolfshanze]

WORK-IN-PROJECT

Okay folks... I'm going to fulfill JustATourist's request and collect everything here into one pack (and give credit where credit is due).

This is basically a community collection of various Asian Ships from the Age of Sail that can be used as flavor units to replace the "western" styled ships in Civ4.

Included in this pack are generic Asian replacements for the Galley, Trireme, Galleass, Frigate and Ship of the Line.

v2.0 offers two versions of the Kobukson... an arrow-firing version (Galley Kobukson) and a cannon-firing version (Galleas Kobukson).

v3.0 includes the new Zheng He Treasure Ship Galleon model by Coyote, plus additional skins.

v4.0 includes many new "Dragon ship" skins for the Trireme and Caravel... including Green, Gold, Red, Blue & Black.

Credits for these models belong to:
Galley Atakebune - Chuggi
Trireme Dragon - Coyote & Xenomorph (team), custom skins by Wolfshanze & DWolf
Galley Kobukson - Chamaedrys & Xenomorph (team)
Galleas Kobukson - Chamaedrys & Xenomorph (team)
Caravel - by Firaxis, custom skins by Wolfshanze & DWolf
Galleon Zheng He Treasure Ship - Coyote with skins by Roland, Wolfshanze & tsentom1
Frigate Junk - General Matt
SotL Large Junk - General Matt

Fixed Animations:
Thanks to Coyote for fixing the animations!

Animations used:
1) Galley Atakebune uses Default Gally Animations
2) Trireme Dragon uses Default Trireme Animations
3) Galley Kobukson uses Default Gally Animations
4) Galleas Kobukson uses included Animations
5) Caravel uses Default "Ship_Asian" Animations
6) Galleon Zheng He Treasure Ship uses Default Galleon Animations
7) Frigate Junk uses Default Frigate Animations
8) SotL Large Junk uses Default Frigate Animations

Download Here
v4.0 updated 3 August 08

Alternate Western Ship Pack:
In the above screen-shots, you can see three alternate team colored western-style ships... if you prefer to use them over the defaults, they can be found here... all three are team colored, and all three are properly animated for BtS (thanks to the Coyote for the animation fixes).

v2.0 of the Western Ship Pack includes the Dromon Trireme.

Models were made by:
Trade Galley: White Rabbit
One Sail Trireme: Coyote
Trireme Dromon: Arnes & Coyote
Galleass: C.Roland

 

[Wolfshanze]

Okay... we have the Trireme covered now, thanks to Coyote and Xenomorph, we have a team-colored, fully animated Asian Dragon Trireme.

Asian Dragon Trireme

Now, I think we need a good replacement for the Asian Galleass... we already have a good model that fits into the mold both for size, age, function and history... the Korean Kobukson "Turtle Ship" was a cannon-carrying medieval battlewagon... an excellent asian replacement for the Galleass...

We already have a fully animated model... team color... but we need it updated for the renaissance... it needs cannons and a proper row sequence.

Coyote or whoever... can you swap-out the (currently default Galley-animated) oars and fire arrows for the more-numerous oars and cannons of the Galleass animation? If you put the Galleass (now fixed) oars and cannons on the Kobukson, I think we'll have a superb replacement for the Galleass for Asian use!

Asian Kobukson Galleass

Here's the files for the team-colored Kobukson:

 

[Chuggi]

Ummm, the galley I made is only a WIP and it has a bug with the sail... which is why I never officially uploaded it here yet.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Ummm, the galley I made is only a WIP and it has a bug with the sail... which is why I never officially uploaded it here yet.

Well, the top of the thread does state "WIP" which matches what you just said... it's a work in project for a number of things... it just seems everyone is working on asian ships an people are starting to lose track in half a dozen different threads. Just trying to organize this into one thread, not trying to step on anyone's toes.

I'm not posting this thread and abandoning it... as soon as more models and/or fixes become available, I'll update it.

 

[Chuggi]

Yeah I know, it's just kind of annoying. It was my first ship (I can make better ones now ) so I think it's kind of inferior. But moving on... the Kobukson there looks good.

 

[Berenthor]

I hadn't even seen all of these to be honest. It is very nice to have them here in one place, especially with all the fixes in animations that have been done lately. Thnx to everyone for all the work they put into this Maybe we can see if there are any asian replacements for the galleon and privateer as well?

 

[Xenomorph]

The problem with making an alternate to the privateer is that everyone will know it comes from an Asian civ when they see it, and if you're the only Asian civ...

 

[Wolfshanze]

We could really use an Asian Galleon replacement... currently there is nothing that fits the bill... my best guess would be something based on Zheng He's Treasure Ship.

Chuggi, or any other ship modeler... how about it?

 

[mamba]

We could really use an Asian Galleon replacement... currently there is nothing that fits the bill...

For the time being I'd go with the built in ART_DEF_UNIT_ASIAN_WAR_GALLEY

 

[Wolfshanze]

For the time being I'd go with the built in ART_DEF_UNIT_ASIAN_WAR_GALLEY

That's the default Asian Caravel, isn't it?

 

[mamba]

Oops, you are right, don't believe I ever saw it in game, so I thought it was one of those ethnic models just used in a mod

 

[Wolfshanze]

Oops, you are right, don't believe I ever saw it in game, so I thought it was one of those ethnic models just used in a mod

Never seen an Asian Caravel? You must not play BtS!

 

[Chuggi]

The problem with making an alternate to the privateer is that everyone will know it comes from an Asian civ when they see it, and if you're the only Asian civ...

That's half the fun though. It wouldn't make much difference in single player because the AI doesn't look at the graphics. I don't really care who's attacking me with privateers either (unless they take out an unescorted galleon/transport during peace time ) but it doesn't really effect the game at all, it just makes me angry at the asian civ who has it out for me.

Although it may be a problem in multiplayer.


@ Wolfshanze - I think the default Warlords Asian ship with cannons would serve as a galleon (there's no oars on it).

 

[Wolfshanze]

@ Wolfshanze - I think the default Warlords Asian ship with cannons would serve as a galleon (there's no oars on it).

Are you speaking of the default Asian Caravel too? Seems to be a common statement around here.

Short of using the default Asian Caravel twice (which I don't think of as a solution), or the revelation that I've completely missed an unused Asian ship in default Civ4, I think we need a new model.

I wish I had half the skills of you Chuggi... if I was any good, I'd make that Zheng He Treasure ship for the Asian Galley... but I suck at 3D stuff (and yes, I tried the tutorials... I was an utter failure... I need to stick to skinning).

 

[Berenthor]

Yeah the privateer thing may be a problem, I hadn't thought of that. As for the galleon, I agree with Wolfschanze, the treasure ship is a very good replacement. I've seen some pictures of it next to some european ship (santa cruz or something if I remember correctly). It is big . It was a 3D picture, so I'll see if I can find it somewhere and upload it.

 

[Chuggi]

I'll look into making it, but I've got some other meso ships I wanted to create first (even if they're semi-what-if ).

I'm going to upload the asian trireme today but you've already got the dragon one, so I'm not sure where it will fit in.

 

[Berenthor]

Sounds good Chuggi, mesoamerican is also an area which can use some more diverse ships. I actually found the picture, it was the ship of columbus (sancta maria I believe).

 

[Wolfshanze]

There's a lot of confusion about just how big his treasure ships were... reports vary widely... even the number of masts is in debate (anywhere from three to nine masts). I posted multiple pictures higher up in this thread. In any case, a Civ4 version would more then likely be used as a Galleon replacement, so it's size would probably be comparable to other galleons... doesn't matter though... we just need a good asian replacement for the galleon!

P.S.
Meso ships are good too... but there's an awful lot of Asians wanting a galleon!

Beggars can't be choosers... I'll take whatever you offer to the public!

 

[Xenomorph]

I'd like a 400' version to use as a second UU for China. Even if they weren't quite that big, they were certainly larger than any of their Western counterparts.

 

[Wolfshanze]

I'd like a 400' version

Here you go...

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