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Community Balance Patch Mods Compatibility

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  1. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    Community Patch Mod Compatibility
    -Objective-
    Turns these mods created by their respective owners balanced and compatible with the Community Patch. Requires the Community Patch. The CBP and CSD otherwise, are recommended if you want to enable more! It's also not just turning mods to be compatible. It also includes some missing thematic features!

    -Balance Doctrine-
    All of these mods have been retrofitted from static modifiers to citizen modifiers. An example would be you will no longer be seeing culture modifier but rather culture per citizens instead when you download this mod. Some mods have also been updated to add in new features in which the old mod couldn't implement due to "not" being compatible with the Community Patch.

    All of the designs of CPMC has been balanced thoroughly(although you may request if something needs to be changed). The designs has all been flavored accordingly so that the AIs may pick them up when it is necessary. They are also compatible throughout the Community Patch updates as long as no major features are changed.

    CPMC is also component-wise. Added with a CompatibilityOptions.sql, users may change if necessary to their preferences.

    -Features-

    • Better balance for the supported mods below.
    • A large amount of more diplomacy text responses.
    • A customization CompatibilityOptions.sql which provides directions in how to disable one of the component of the CPMC you do not like! If you downloaded one of those that is.

    Spoiler More Process :

    • Automatically included!
    What More Process includes:
    • Includes Prayer, a process unlocked at Philosophy that converts 35% of your Production to Faith.
    • Includes Propaganda, a process unlocked at Radio that converts 10% of your Production to Tourism.
    • Includes Prosperity, a process unlocked at Globalization that converts 20% of your Production to Golden Age Points.

    Spoiler More Religious Beliefs :

    • Automatically included!
    What More Religious Beliefs includes:
    • Follower Belief Atash allowing Atash to be purchased with Faith. Granting +2 Culture, +2 Faith, 10% of a City's Faith is converted to Science. +3 Tourism unlocked at Acoustics. Reduces Boredom. Based on Zoroastrianism.
    • Follower Belief Aul allowing Aul to be purchased with Faith. Granting +2 Faith, +2 Great General Points, +1 Food to Camps, Plantations, and Pastures. +2 Tourism unlocked at Theology. Reduces Poverty. Based on Tengriism.
    • Follower Belief Gurdwara allowing Gurdwara to be purchased with Faith. Granting +3 Faith. Reduces Boredom, Distress, Illiteracy, and Poverty. 1 Great Work of Music slot. Based on Sikhism.
    • Follower Belief Jinja allowing Jinja to be purchased with Faith. Granting +2 Faith, +3 Great Admiral Points, +1 Faith to water tiles. Reduce Distress. 1 Great Work of Art slot. Based on Shintoism.
    • Follower Belief Xuemiao allowing Xuemiao to be purchased with Faith. Granting +2 Faith, +20% Great People Generation, 1 Great Work of Literature slot. +10 Instant Science when a GP is expended scaling with era. Based on Confucianism.
    • Reformation Belief Food for Thought granting the ability for grocers, hospitals, and medical labs to be purchased with Faith and grant +5 Food to these buildings.
    • Reformation Belief Opium of the People granting the ability for circuses, zoos, and stadiums to be purchased with Faith and grant +5 Golden Age Points to these buildings.

    Spoiler Pontoon Bridge Compatibility :


    What PBC includes:

    • Pontoon Bridge grants a promotion that is lost on movement. It is granted when a unit is on a Pontoon Bridge, and currently then grants no combat penalty with amphibious attacks, +10% Cover from all ranged attacks, but -25% combat penalty when attacking toward cities.
    • Pontoon Bridge now grants +1 Gold and +1 Culture to the surrounding

    Spoiler Building - Upgrade System Compatibility :

    What BUSC includes:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Artist/Writer/Musician Tower +1 culture for every 5 citizens in the city and +1 respective Great Artist/Writer/Musician slot and +1 respective GP point.
    Amphitheater Upgrade +1 culture for every 20 citizens and +1 Writer Slot
    Opera House Upgrade +1 culture for every 10 citizens and +1 Musician Slot
    Museum Upgrade +1 culture for every 6 citizens and +1 Artist Slot
    Granary Upgrade +2 food and +1 food for every 10 citizens.
    Aqueduct Upgrade +20% of the food of the city is added to the current food total every time the city gains a citizen.
    Hospital Upgrade +5 food and +1 food for every 10 citizens.
    Barrack Upgrade +7 XP to all units.
    Armory Upgrade +8 XP to all units.
    Military Academy Upgrade +10 XP to all units.
    Wall Upgrade +3 Defense and +15 HP also improves land and naval trade routes distance by 10% and 5% respectively.
    Castle Upgrade +4 Defense and +20 HP also improves land and naval trade routes distance by 20% and 10% respectively.
    Arsenal Upgrade +5 Defense and +25 HP also improves land and naval trade routes distance by 30% and 15% respectively.
    Military Base Upgrade +6 Defense and +30 HP also improves land and naval trade routes distance by 40% and 20% respectively.
    Library Upgrade +20% of the city's science output per every new citizen birth!
    University Upgrade +1 science for every 6 citizen and +1 scientist slot. Each 4 citizens add +1 gold maintenance!
    Public School Upgrade +1 science for every 7 citizen and +1 scientist slot. Each 3 citizens add +1 gold maintenance!
    Laboratory Upgrade +1 science for every 8 citizen and +1 scientist slot. Each 2 citizens add +1 gold maintenance!
    Workshop Upgrade +1 production for every 4 citizen and +1 engineer slot. Each 5 citizens add +1 gold maintenance!
    Lighthouse Upgrade +1 food to all coastal tiles. Each 2 citizens add +1 gold maintenance!
    Caravansary Upgrade Receive a Tourism boost equal to 2% of your current Empire-wide culture per turn when a Land Trade Route originating here and targeting another Civilization is completed.
    Harbor Upgrade Receive a Tourism boost equal to 2% of your current Empire-wide culture per turn when a Sea Trade Route originating here and targeting another Civilization is completed.
    Market Upgrade +1 gold for every 20 citizens and two merchant point.
    Bank Upgrade +1 gold for every 16 citizens, one merchant slot and two merchant point.
    Stock Exchange Upgrade +1 gold for every 14 citizens, two merchant slot and two merchant point.




    Industrial Buildings Pack Compatibility!
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    What IBC includes:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Textile Mill +3 production to the city and +1 production to Sheep, Silk, Cotton Requires Sheep, Silk, or Cotton.
    General Store +2 food, +1 food to bananas and citrus tiles, +1 food for every 10 citizens and +10% of the food output of this city is added to the total food when a new citizen is born. Requires a market built.
    Chemist +2 science, +1 science for every 10 citizens, +10% of the research output of this city is added to the total research when a new citizen is born. Requires a university built.
    Ranch +2 production, +1 food and +1 gold to sheep, cows, and horse tiles. Requires a stable built.
    Industrial Mine +3 production and +3 Coal. A maximum of three can only be built and only nearby a mountain.
    Coastal Battery +4 defense and +25 HP. Can only be built if city is coastal and also requires an arsenal built.



    Brazilwood Camp Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

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    What BCEC includes:



      • Brazilwood Camp available to all Civilizations!
      • Brazil is granted a UB: Jesuit Church, a replacement of the Garden.
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Jesuit Church +25% Great people generation, +1 Faith, and also provide +1 Culture on Jungle tiles. The city also does not need to be next to a river to be constructed. +2 gold to citrus and cocoa tiles.



    Moai Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

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    What MEC includes:



      • Moais available to all Civilizations!
      • Polynesia is granted a UB: Marae, a replacement of the Temple.
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Marae +2 faith, +1 culture to ocean tiles, +1 Great Work of Art or Artifact Slot. Reduces religious unhappiness by -25%. +1 gold and culture to incense and wine tiles.



    Polder Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :

    What PEC includes:



      • Polders available to all Civilizations!
      • Fixes a tooltip issue with CBP's Polders. (Gazebo won't look at this. :pat:)
    Column 1 Column 2
    Name Benefits
    Polder Mills +3 food, +2 production, +1 culture, +25% building modifier.



    Kasbah Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :

    What KEC includes:



      • Kasbah available to all Civilizations!
      • Morocco is granted a UB: Riad, a replacement of the Garden.
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Riad +25% Great People Generation, +1 happiness, and +1 Culture to all desert tiles. The city also does not need to be next to a river to be constructed. +2 gold to citrus and cocoa tiles.



    Terrace Farm Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :

    What TFEC includes:



      • Terrace Farms available to all Civilizations!
      • Inca is granted a UB: Stone Temple, a replacement of the Temple.
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Stone Temple +2 faith, +2 culture, +1 Great Work of Art or Artifact Slot, reduces religious unhappiness by 25%. +1 culture and gold to wine and incense.



    Chateau Extension Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :



      • Do not activate the Chateau Extension or any other mod that replaces the Chateau in the France Civilization.
      • Activate the CPMC and enjoy!
    What CEC includes:



      • Chateau available to all Civilizations!
      • France is granted a UB: Palais, a replacement of the castle.
      • Palais yields +9 Defense, +90 HP, +5 culture, and +1 food for every 10 citizens for no maintenance.
    Column 1 Column 2
    Name Benefits
    Palais +9 Defense, +90 HP, +5 culture, and +1 food for every 10 citizens



    Neolithic Wonders Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :

    What NWC includes:



      • All Neolithic Wonder produces +2 tourism upon discovering Archaeology.
    Column 1 Column 2
    Name Benefits
    Barnenez +2 production, +1 culture. +1 production for every 5 citizens.
    Ggantija 10% growth in all cities and +1 faith.
    Newgrange +3 faith, +1 faith for every 5 citizens.
    Skarabrae +2 food, +1 food to cow and sheep tile. +1 food for every 10 citizens.


    Spoiler National Wonders Collection Compatibility :

    What NWCC includes:
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    National Sea Academy +25 XP to naval units. +15% production toward sea units. Spawn a free admiral. Requires a harbor.
    National War Academy +20% Great General generation. Free arsenal. +15 XP to land units, +15% production toward land units. Requires a national population of 65 and an armory.
    National Air Academy Grants evasion promotion to all air units, +25% production toward air units. Requires a national population of 75 and a military academy.
    Hydroelectric Company Grants +1 gold, +2 research, +2 production to all cities. Requires a national population of 80.
    Central Bank Provides +2%(max 8%) from mutual open borders agreements. Requires a national population of 70, bank and a capital city status.
    Central Station +10% gold and all roads are transformed into railroads. Requires a national population of 70.



    Strategic Building Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    What SBC includes:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    School of Equestrian Art +2 culture, +2 tourism, +1 happiness and culture for every stable. Requires one horse and 100 national population.
    Racing Course +1 happiness, +1 gold to all horse tiles. Requires two horses.
    Steel Mill +4 production, +2 production to iron tiles. Requires two iron.




      • Ironworks now additionally require one iron resource while giving +1 production to all iron tiles in the city.


    Motte-and-Bailey Fort Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    What MaBFC includes:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Motte-and-Bailey Fort +20% defensive strength, deals 10 damage to adjacent enemies, can only be built inside friendly territories. May function as a coastal fort. +1 production with Engineering, +2 culture with Archaeology and +1 gold if on a city connection.




    Unique Policy Buildings Compatibility!
    Spoiler :

    Spoiler :



      • Do not activate the Unique Policy Building mod by thecrazyscotsman.
      • Activate the CPMC and enjoy!
    What UPBC includes:



      • All buildings are unlocked in the Ancient Era as long as you have the required policies opened.
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Saunas +1 food and +1 culture, additional food and culture for every 6 citizens. Requires Tradition.
    Town Council +1 culture. +1 production for every 4 citizens. -10% cultural and gold cost of tiles. Requires Liberty.
    Stronghold +10 XP to ONLY land and naval units. +3.5 Defense and +40 HP. Requires Honor.
    Parochial School +1 science and +1 faith. +1 science for every 6 citizens and +1 faith for every 3 citizens. Require Piety. Has a production cost of a medieval era building.
    State Embassy Produces +1 world congress vote(vary on gamespeed), 1 civil servant slot, +1 great diplomat point, +2 science, gold, and culture. Requires Patronage. building. National Wonder.
    Memorial +4 culture. +1 tourism for every 5 citizens. Requires Aesthetics.
    Depots +1 production and +1 gold for every 4 citizens. Requires Industry.
    Botanical Garden Provides +3 of all yields. Requires Imperialism.
    Patent Office +3 science and +1 gold for every 9 citizens. Requires Rationalism.



    Medieval and Renaissance Compatibility!
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    Spoiler :

    What MRC includes:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    Name Benefits Miscellaneous
    Apothecary +1 food, +1 science, +1 food for every 10 citizens. Adds +10% of the city's science output to the total science when a new citizen is born.
    Alchemist +1 science to various metal resources.
    Blacksmith +1 production, +1 production for every 10 citizens. +10% production toward melee, mounted, siege, and archer units.
    Printer +1 culture, tourism, and science. +1 culture, science, and tourism for every 10 citizens in the city.
    Sewer Systems Provides food upon a new citizen being born depending on your food output. Isn't exactly the same as carrying over food.



    F.A.Q.

    Q. Why can't I use Chateau by BlouBlou or Unique Policy Buildings by thecrazyscotsman?
    A. They're installed automatically.
    Q. Can I have none of these supported mods installed and still have this mod work?
    A. Of course, the Chateau and Unique Policy Buildings have already been incorporated into the mod. Be sure to delete those.
    Q. Can I have some of the mods installed and have some of them not installed?
    A. Of course!
    Q. This "thing" isn't balanced.
    A. Not a question, but make sure to explain the reasoning why it isn't balanced.
    Q. I found a bug.
    A. Okay report it..?
    Q. When will you do Feitorias?
    A. Never. AIs will overcrowd city-states with feitorias, it's ridiculous.

    Feedback is appreciated.
     
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  2. Furkhail

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    Among those changes, the % are harsh. CBP doesn't have pretty much any %. Everything is flat. Sometimes pop-related. But that's it. So, university and broadcast towers probably need a touch.
     
  3. Enginseer

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    You are probably right. Changes now updated.
     
  4. Crimson13

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    It's a little hard to read what the upgrades do when reading from the pastebin text, maybe put the changes in a post to make it easier? Also, is there any thought to UB upgrades? I'd wager they don't need them due to being better but all the other buildings were upgraded.

    It's cool that you updated the mod regardless, I remember liking it back then but due to the incompatibilities it wouldn't work.
     
  5. Enginseer

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    Added.
    This is a hassle to make the building upgrade system compatible with since you would have to make a 3rd unique component for civilizations for such that would have a UB to upgrade. Since building an Ikanda allows you to build a "Barrack - Upgrade" anyway, I see no reason to make unique building upgrades of course. :mischief:

    Yeah, I'd rebalanced the buildings to have more of a stable infrastructure system in real life. An example would be having a better opera house could allow you to full-time hire a musician to play on the house etc.
     
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    Oh, wasn't aware that it still gave an upgrade for UBs. Thank you for putting that down.
     
  7. Furkhail

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    It still show % bonuses. Some even greater than earlier.
     
  8. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    My bad forgot to update the pastebin, now almost all cultural and science buildings should output their respective yield based on population. :crazyeye:
     
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    So if this is working properly, will somebody post an archive of the files in their appropriate configuration please? It looks really cool. My favorite feature is the textile mill. It is a building that can be either not used, useful, or extremely empowering depending on your city location. Maybe you could upgrade the stone works for more art as well, like statues?
     
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    It should definitely be working because I've been using it for 3 games already without a problem. Should also be savegame compatible IF you had these mods loaded on the saves already since it does not add or remove any game cache.

    However, I will upload a file for easier installation.

    However, if this compatibility pack goes successfully. I might include a More Luxury compatibility standalone with the pack.
     
  11. Furkhail

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    I'm still seeing a % yield bonus. Workshop gives % production. :D
     
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    All CBP buildings. Bold are buildings not affected by BUSC (judging by your changelog).
    Spoiler :

    General:
    Well/Watermill
    Baths/Garden
    Chancery-Wire Service
    Constabulary-Police Station
    Airport
    Recycling Center
    Civilized Jeweler's Office


    Food:
    Granary
    Stockyard
    TwoKay Foods Office

    Aqueduct-Grocer-Hospital-Medical Lab

    Production:
    Stone Works
    Stable
    Windmill
    Wind Plant/Hydro Plant
    Spaceship Factory
    Firaxite Materials Office
    LandSea Extractors Office

    Forge-Workshop-Factory-Coal Plant/Solar Plant/Nuclear Plant

    Gold:
    Caravansary
    Mint
    Market-Bank-Stock Exchange
    Trader Sid's Office


    Science:
    Observatory
    Library-University-Public School-Research Lab

    Culture/Tourism:
    Monument
    Hotel
    Colloseum-Circus-Zoo-Stadium
    Giorgio Armeier Office

    Amphitheater-Opera House-Museum-Broadcaster Tower

    Faith:
    Shrine-Temple

    Military:
    Hexxon Refineries Office
    Barracks-Armory-Military Academy


    Defence:
    Bomb Shelter
    Walls-Castle-Arsenal-Military Base

    Naval:
    Lighthouse
    Harbor-Seaport

    I think upgrades also should provide 1/10 or 1/5 of the value to related unhapiness reduction the base building provides.
    Regarding corporations offices - if you plan to cover them in your patch, make that only the base yield would be upgraded (aka +yield on resources), but the franchise part is tied to the base building.
    As of extension mods, better move UBs around so there would be as little UB overlaps between CBP civs as possible. Also UIs were made with one civ in mind and so are much more powerful. Kasbah, for example, is a straight up nerf to Morocco.
    EDIT: I didn't use BUS before and thought that upgrades are infinite and limited only by maintenance. Turns out each building can be upgraded only once, so I think both parts of the offices being upgraded won't be bad.
     
  13. Enginseer

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    Would be hard to balance if you had more GP production and early production building upgrades in the game. Building an upgrade for chancery-wire service requires City-State Diplomacy mod, I want the mod pack to be as versatile as possible therefore I didn't wish to make upgrades for those two. Constabulary-Police Station upgrades would be heavily strong and makes spying impossible. Recycling Centers are "limited" national wonders and therefore cannot have an upgrade. Airports would be too strong if you could transport more units.

    I would need to ask where Gazebo keeps his art files to upgrade the bolded buildings.

    I won't mostly interfere with the production line for now.

    The BUS Mod Compatibility was made in mind to help maintain mass gold incomes in the late game. Adding these upgrades would get you into big cash by the industrial era. However, I might experiment with these upgrades in having huger maintenance in exchange for percentage gold based on population beneficial for extremely tall civilizations.

    In the late game where research is very high. Adding in a flat-modifier would be dangerous for public school and research labs upgrade. However, adding in a population-modifier would already be negligible due to the fact that most of your cities should be heavily populated. This would mostly help wide civilizations with illiteracy unhappiness problems. However, I will attempt to think of a way to work around this using .sql files to help reduce illiteracy modifiers by a negligible amount of course.

    I am definitely not going to upgrade tourism and happiness buildings due to the huge balance diversion in the game.


    Trying to make :nuke: nukes still a danger of course. I don't see how you can upgrade a bomb shelter in real life anyway. :crazyeye:

    I have no comment for this because I am currently using the sea improvement mod(really helps, might balance however accordingly) to compensate for their lack of upgrades.

    I don't believe the game accept decimals in the XML data and therefore lowest possible would be 1% which would really help with happiness once you start getting all the upgrades in the late game.

    I have no intention on getting upgrades for corporations since players most often gets bug related to corporations as I have seen in the bug report section and decided it wouldn't be worth it if my mod caused some problems with Corporations as well. :sad:

    I prefer to think of it as Kasbah as a buff to Morocco since he can now build forts and kasbahs now and have a unique building that grants him culture for building kasbahs in desert tiles? Yes please. However, most people don't seem to recognize the production difference between the unique buildings and the real buildings. (Riad has a huge production reduction compared to the garden). So, Riad now has a +1 happiness buff from now on to have the same production cost as the garden.
     
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    Can you please tell me which specific mod is to take a look, thanks.
     
  15. Enginseer

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    This one.
     
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    Very kind man, taking a look now.
     
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    New update, not savegame compatible.
     
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    Do we just need to download your mod to the mod folder and choose the Community Balance Patch mods compatibility when we are choosing mods for a game? Or are we meant to have the individual mods there too and select them?
     
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    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    This. If you don't have the selected mods activated, then nothing will happen and the game continues normally.
     
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    Sorry I meant to say also - Does your mod supply the other mods? Or do we have to subscribe to them from the workshop? I had the mods already, but then deleted them. But I have had problems with the steam workshop in the past, where mods I delete will redownload themselves for some odd reason. Or does it not really matter? As long as I have the Classic and Industrial building packs and the building upgrade pack, and your compatibility mod selected, I should be good right? :lol:
     

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