Confession time - what have you never done in this game that other people do routinely?

[jasper]

I have no idea what other people do.

The irony is, judging by this thread, it seems most people dont chop/harvest lol.

 

[BakouKai]

- Never played on random maps. I always go for "real" world (or part of the world) maps.

- Never plan in Advance my victory or the way I am going to play. Actually I often end up winning by surprise. I happen to force the fate when I accidentally discover that competition is close to score a touch down. Last one was an accidentally win with tourism over science as I discovered 2 competitors already had the 2 first required building for science. Had to get some items for my museums. Never though I would do that in Civ actually

- Never go on an improvised war. When I go to war, I often have the first weeks of blitzkrieg planned. And my army gets often tired after some time as I rarely renew it intensively during wars. I know it is sub-optimal but it's ok. The only variation is when a civ annoys me particularly. Then I aim for a clean swipe.

- Barely Minimax. Even though Civ VI is really encouraging doing this. I am probably a poor player

Rest is similar to what people seems not to do (CityState conquest etc.) so I do not know if I can still include it in "what other player do routinely".

 

[walkerjks]

Not sure if conquest players routinely do this or not... but I had never levied a CS army until the last game (and even then it was only done to unlock the levy Non Madol's army achievement). I do use CS suzerainty as a buffer against my more aggressive neighbor (will suzerain a CS I otherwise don't want just because of the placement against an aggressive neighbor), but have never actually fought their units in battle.

 

[agonistes]

Finish.

 

[walkerjks]

I have no idea what other people do.

The irony is, judging by this thread, it seems most people dont chop/harvest lol.

I'm basing my own impressions on consensus best strategy based on forum posts. But I missed 3 years of posts while I didn't play, so there are some odd gaps - first builds will be discussed for eternity. First governor, not so much. So it seem some people like early Magnus to improve chops and later remove the population hit of settlerss. I can really see the appeal of Magnus in a city with the government center to churn out settlers while the rest of the civ produces other useful things. Magnus to chop an early wonder makes great sense. But I have never appointed Magnus as governor (at any stage of the game). Extra science or culture early seems more important to me, but maybe they are right and I am picking the wrong early governor.

 

[adrifranchise]

Also, I'm pretty sure I've never been at war with Poundmaker.

I laughed at this because through one of my play throughs awhile ago (I can’t remember what Civ I was playing as) poundmaker broke my alliance and declared war on me in the modern era and triggered a betrayal emergency. You can imagine the pure shock on face to even witness this unfold

 

[tedhebert]

I got a few others finally :
- Raze a city
- Win a Score Victory

 

[Navelgazer]

Not sure if conquest players routinely do this or not... but I had never levied a CS army until the last game (and even then it was only done to unlock the levy Non Madol's army achievement). I do use CS suzerainty as a buffer against my more aggressive neighbor (will suzerain a CS I otherwise don't want just because of the placement against an aggressive neighbor), but have never actually fought their units in battle.

I'm not a conquest player at all, but I am a Suzerain-monger, and so for instance in my current game (as Pericles, with Monty in my backyard) I'm playing peacefully but the second he steps to me I'm levying my boys for sure. Levying units is a great way to build and develop peacefully (provided you're developing your economy as well) and have an answer to aggressive neighbors.

I'm basing my own impressions on consensus best strategy based on forum posts. But I missed 3 years of posts while I didn't play, so there are some odd gaps - first builds will be discussed for eternity. First governor, not so much. So it seem some people like early Magnus to improve chops and later remove the population hit of settlerss. I can really see the appeal of Magnus in a city with the government center to churn out settlers while the rest of the civ produces other useful things. Magnus to chop an early wonder makes great sense. But I have never appointed Magnus as governor (at any stage of the game). Extra science or culture early seems more important to me, but maybe they are right and I am picking the wrong early governor.

I honestly don't chop or harvest that much (basically just to clear the way for districts/wonders or if I *really* need to get something built fast and have no other way to rush it,) But the (probably sub-optimal) way I tend to play focuses on getting that Classical Golden Age Monumentality Dedication, which means I prioritize Holy Sites in a way that better players would rightfully scoff at, but investing heavy in religion early means the era score for Pantheon (Divine Spark unless I'm sitting on a particularly beautiful piece of land, or if I'm, like Gitarja or Pachacuti or Curtin, in which case Earth Goddess if I can get it) then era score for popping the Great Prophet, then for founding the religion, means that getting the classical golden age is better than even odds, especially as I'm otherwise scouting for Natural Wonders, Goodie Huts, Neighbors, and clearing out barb camps (and if I'm in a place to do so, getting the first Galley out there.) So the faith helps me buy a ton of settlers and getting there is worth a ton of era score. It's a synergistic strategy, even if not the best one.

But even with this faith focus, Moksha would never be my first governor. It is *always* Magnus. Because the Provision promotion is essential. Magnus first, the Provision for Magnus, then Pingala wherever he'll be most useful, then Moksha if he can be helpful. I actually don't use Amani that much but will try to neutralize her any time I see the AI using her, of course.

 

[TCBB]

What have I never done? Built the Oracle.

I’m completely aware that a lot of people rate it as an S Tier wonder. And I can see the attraction of the extra GPP. But I never, *ever* faith buy great people (if I’m generating faith, it’ll be for apostle or Grand Master’s Chapel), and I can never justify the early-game production or chops.

If I’m going to chop out any early wonder, it’s gonna be Pyramids, Petra, or (if I can get there in time) Apadana, which i think is very underrated.

 

[adrifranchise]

I got a few others finally :
- Raze a city
- Win a Score Victory

Not going to lie but if a Civ really annoys me I always raze their cities to prove a point

 

[Arithmion]

Not going to lie but if a Civ really annoys me I always raze their cities to prove a point

I do this too lol. Whenever I do, I softly say "Burn it to the ground." I say it for every city.

 

[Navelgazer]

Huh, if a Civ really annoys me I'm more likely to keep the city and rename it something insulting as a memorial to their hubris.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Well I don't plan much, like how I'm going to win, where I should put my cities and districts and so on.

 

[Loerwyn]

Never (or more than once) have I:
- Started on anything other than Ancient Era
- Adjusted the water level, resource generation, etc.
- Played on anything other than Standard speed
- Played a male leader (honest!)
- Built a National Park (I think, I don't think I have - I can't work out how to use them)

I'm sure there's other things

 

[yung.carl.jung]

super slow speed.

yup.

also:

all the buildings in neighborhoods (built them once, never again)
dams and catastrophe prevention
railroads

Claim Scotland is the best science civ in the game. On paper they have nice science bonuses, and I've seen highly regarded streamers say they're top tier, but have not seen them perform particularly well vs. other civs that simply go wider and ignore amenities. I don't doubt they're better than average in the space race, but can someone link me to a fast Deity science victory video series?

I wouldn't give too much of a **** about what streamers/youtubers say. I've not watched a single Civ 6 youtuber I was impressed with, with the two exceptions being a chinese player and GamerGrampz, who isn't amazing at the game but really thorough and contemplative, which I like.

example: there is only one video of a sub200 SV on youtube (post GS). one.

Civ isn't like FPS games or Dark Souls. Those games have streamers with near superhuman mechanical skill who are obviously experts at the games they play. Civ 6 has no mechanical skill involved whatsoever, and imho most Civ 6 YouTubers are only watched for their personality, not for their gameplay. Games like Civ simply don't (generally speaking) attract the kind of people who try very hard. again, you're probably in the top 10% of all Civ 6 players simply for beating Deity.

 

[alancsilver]

Attacking a city-state. Even if I am war with them, I usually just avoid them

 

[yung.carl.jung]

I'm basing my own impressions on consensus best strategy based on forum posts. But I missed 3 years of posts while I didn't play, so there are some odd gaps - first builds will be discussed for eternity. First governor, not so much. So it seem some people like early Magnus to improve chops and later remove the population hit of settlerss. I can really see the appeal of Magnus in a city with the government center to churn out settlers while the rest of the civ produces other useful things. Magnus to chop an early wonder makes great sense. But I have never appointed Magnus as governor (at any stage of the game). Extra science or culture early seems more important to me, but maybe they are right and I am picking the wrong early governor.

There is no wrong choice. For some maps you may want Pingala first and then promote him instead of getting a 2nd governor, for example when you lack science or culture. For some maps you want Magnus into Liang, or the other way around, for others Amani to secure first Golden Age, in rare situations you might even want Victor or Moksha, though that hasn' occured for me yet. Incidentally, there is also no universal correct choice. One thing to keep in mind: governors take 5 turns to establish, and many of the unpromoted bonuses are incredibly strong, so I suggest getting Magnus, Liang and Amani established asap, while Pingala on the other hand is much stronger when he has his 3 promotions, compared to Magnus or Amani who really don't need any. Magnus first is not always right, since you want to use chops together with modifiers (like +50% production to settler policy, also applies to chops).

 

[Navelgazer]

I wouldn't give too much of a **** about what streamers/youtubers say. I've not watched a single Civ 6 youtuber I was impressed with, with the two exceptions being a chinese player and GamerGrampz, who isn't amazing at the game but really thorough and contemplative, which I like.

I enjoy PotatoMcWhiskey, though he's such a top-level player that watching his streams doesn't always give you a lot of information as to *why* he's making choices that are clearly pretty instinctive to him.

Never (or more than once) have I:
- Started on anything other than Ancient Era
- Adjusted the water level, resource generation, etc.
- Played on anything other than Standard speed
- Played a male leader (honest!)
- Built a National Park (I think, I don't think I have - I can't work out how to use them)

I've won Culture Victories far more than any other type and still almost never build National Parks. I also prefer to play as female leaders for whatever reason and smile when I see that there's at least gender parity in whatever game I've got going at the moment. I only have ever played Standard Speed and have only messed with the water level for (I believe) The Netherlands, in the hopes that I could get more polder spots. Abundant Resources, in my experience, messes with district placement possibilities too much (but might be worthwhile for Maya/Gran Colombia, and could certainly help a Scottish game) but I'm shameless about setting the world age to New for any civ that can benefit from hills (which are most of the ones I like to play) and will go for Legendary Start about as often as not (though that can run you into the same problems as Abundant Resources.)

 

[yung.carl.jung]

I enjoy PotatoMcWhiskey, though he's such a top-level player that watching his streams doesn't always give you a lot of information as to *why* he's making choices that are clearly pretty instinctive to him.

I wouldn't say he's a top level player at all, but I get why people enjoy him and I feel like he's a nice person so I don't want to denounce

 

[Nikolai II]

Well, I think I've only gone for science victory, ever. So no other victory condition done. I love just playing builder style on Emperor, one war max, just building a super civ.