Contact

[Kuningas]

We meet The Council
They know Philosophy. They lack techs Iron Working and Ceremonial Burial.

 

[CommandoBob]

I see from this thread that admiral_bell is/was our Foreign Minister. Is he still active?

 

[Kuningas]

Apparently he is not active.

Message from Council:

Hail Team Free!

We send you warmest greetings from tranquil halls of The Council. Our
sailors have spotted one of your intrepid curraghs, and we are very
pleased to have made their acquaintance.

Rumors have drifted to us from across the seas of many strange and
terrible civilizations… Fearsome Gallic Warriors, Hordes of Iroquois
Mounted Warriors, and thundering Ottoman Sipahi. However, amidst the
dark tales of savage warriors, we have also heard tell of a peaceful
and science loving people much like ourselves – so you can imagine our
joy at meeting you!

We hope the tales are true? Do you share our kindred desire to live in peace?

This world is a scary place – and the Council is most eager to have
you as a friend and partner in peace.
If you'll forgive our boldness at this early stage in our meetings, we
can't help but ponder the power of an Alliance of the two teams most
likely to profit from peace. We could coordinate research, share in
our bonus technologies, and both grow stronger and safer together.

But before we get too far ahead of ourselves – let us ask you: what
are your intentions for this world, and can we work together?

We eagerly await word back from you.

Sincerely Yours,
Speaking with the voice of the Council, General_W

 

[vikingruler]

we should forge an alliance. we will need one if we want to win and starting one early could give us an advantage. they must also be somewhat close to us so we could join forces and prosper together. also, with us only having one island an SS or one city culture win would probably be the easiest. either way we will need alliances and allies to do it.

 

[Kuningas]

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We apologize for late reply. It seems our Foreign Minister has gone absent. We remaining people wish best to you, and hope we would have close relations between our peace loving nations. Our intentions are to protect and teach higher knowledge to fellow citizens of FREE.

Enkidu Warriors solely mission is to protect. We have heard those rumors about savage civilizations also. We are not one of them. And to our understanding you are the other exception. We call you to work for the common good. Is this cooperation accepted by your citizens?

We welcome you to share technological advantage between us. One FREE citizen reported Mausoleum of Mausollos being build in your city. If that is true we have to assume you know secrets of Philosophy. Is it possible to share this technology with us? In exchange we give exact same cost tech Iron working. We wait respond from you.

Voice of FREE
Yours faithfully, Kuningas

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What do you think?

 

[vikingruler]

it sounds really good, but is philosophy worth iron working? maybe we should ask for some gold or offer a cheaper tech. either way that letter should make a nice impression, great job
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[Kuningas]

According to Civassist2 cost for both 180 beakers.

 

[Kuningas]

What do we answer to this message?

Dear Kuningas and all FREE people,

Your words were received with great gladness in the halls of The Council.
We most heartily agree to your trade of Iron Working for Philosophy…
as you know, we sent Philosophy to you last turn, and we look forward
to accepting the deal this turn.

We have 2 Matters we wish to discuss with you.

#1 – Mutually Assured Advancement

Perhaps now we can begin coordinating our research to advance
both our peoples more rapidly?
We'll start by informing you that we just learned the secrets of
Literature, and have our wisepeople peering into the secrets of
something called Masonry. Where are your current research plans taking
you? We're happy to adjust our plans to mutual benefit.

For example, we could strike a deal to rapidly get us both Republic
(a government with more freedom as befits your name) and all the other
Ancient Age techs. One team could race to Republic while the other
gives Map Making and Currency in exchange. In association with this,
we'd both obviously want the deal to include the perquisites for
Republic and Currency as well as all the other techs!

If you agree to this in principle, we can write up a more formal
treaty, dealing with all the particulars and carrying both our peoples
all the way through the ancient age, into sharing our free techs, and
beyond!
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#2 – Playing Well with Others

As we get agreement on how/what our cooperation is going to
look like, we'll both want to address how to handle the savage
foreigners.

Have you met anyone else yet? We're pleased to say that you are the
first humans we've met who have risen above mindless attempts to raid
our cities and that are capable of exploring, learning and
communicating.

I'm sure we can work out a coordinated strategy in dealing with the
Foreign Fearsome Hordes… where if one of us prospers, both prosper.
We'd like to see this as a part of any grand alliance/technology deal.
What do you think?
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Obviously, the first priority is to nail down what techs we're
researching, so please respond as soon as possible with your research
plans so we can make sure we're not duplicating our efforts as we
hammer out the rest of these details.

Speaking with the voice of the Council, General_W

 

[CommandoBob]

What do we answer to this message?

What if we tell them we are dreaming of visiting the stars in the sky?

For now, let's band together. I don't want to be the odd man out this early in the game.

Part of the treaty will be how far we'll help each other, so we won't have an open ended committment.

 

[Kuningas]

Would you write a reply CommandoBob?

 

[CommandoBob]

Would you write a reply CommandoBob?

It will be several hours before I could do this. Will that affect our turn playing any?

 

[Kuningas]

No it won't affect turn playing.

 

[CommandoBob]

How does this sound?

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Hail General_W and all The Council!

Allow me to introduce myself. I am CommandoBob, Acting Foreign Minister of Team FREE.

When we mentioned to our learned ones about the possibility of learning this new thing called Republic, they began to cheer and dance; so that seems like a good thing to learn.

We of FREE have big plans. Our greatest dream is to visit the stars and see Trantor, Pern, Hoth, Ceti Alpha V and Iota Geminorum IV. Such a dream will take many years of hard work and effort to become a reality. But we are ready to do so. We are currently trying to learn all about numbers and we soon know how to add and subtract.

We also know how to work with stone and how to have fancy funerals.

We of FREE hope that you wish to visit the stars also (The Council of the FREE, such a great name for a star vessel). But that path is long, and the end is uncertain. We plan to journey to the little spots of lights in the nighttime sky, yet the unknown peoples of this world may seek our destruction upon our first meetings with them. Like yourselves, we have met only the rabble that wear white, and have seen no evidence of the other fearsome sounding peoples.

Having met as friends and seeing the willingness we have to help each other, we of FREE would be glad to be participate in Mutually Assured Advancement and in the planning of how to deal with the great unwashed masses we both have yet to meet.


CommandoBob
FREE Foreign Minister (Acting)
Let FREEdom Ring
Let the white dove sing...


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I may have jumped the gun in calling myself Acting Foreign Minister, (I can always be replaced/voted out), but I needed some official sounding title to be taken seriously by The Council.

 

[Kuningas]

Sounds good.

Add that we have learned Masonry, Mathematics and Ceremonial Burial. And we would trade these 3 techs for Literature. They win a bit in this trade. But making friends is more important.

 

[CommandoBob]

How To ?
What is the proper or preferred way to communicate with The Council?

An email from the Team Free account at Gmail?

An email from my personal Gmail?

And who needs to be copied on the email (admins? players? others? none?)

 

[Kuningas]

Send an email to General_W (he is Council's Foreign Minister)<joshua.v.tucker@gmail.com> and copy to The Council team email <TeamTheCouncil@gmail.com>. That's all what is needed.

 

[Kuningas]

Have you send it yet?

The latest message.

Dear Kunnigas and all FREEs,

We know we sent you a lot to digest in the last letter, but we're
going to be making our next technology choice here soon, and we'd hate
to duplicate efforts.

Any chance you can let us know what you're working on/direction you're
headed so that we can start planning for maximum benefit for both our
peoples?

Also &#8211; Our Curragh, Chamsuri, is approaching your borders and we'd
like your blessing to sail through. If this is a problem, please let
us know right away, and we'll adjust course.

All the Best,
General_W, member of The Council

 

[CommandoBob]

Message sent. I lost time trying to fineses a better email name from gmail. Still trying to get something better than 'CommandoBob85@gmail.com'

I added myself to the contact list; I added The Council also.

 

[Kuningas]

Message from the Council

Dear FREE peoples,

Our team has been very busy discussing plans for long term cooperation
and the mutual advancement of our peoples. We are excited to present
the following treaty to you&#8230;

In the meantime we would like to accept your proposal to trade
Literature for CB and Maths. We have already put Lit on our side of
the table.

I. Peace

• FREE and The Council agree to take no hostile action, of any
  kind, towards the other.
• This peace treaty will last indefinitely, and can only be
  cancelled by fifteen turns of written notice.
• Notice of intent to cancel the peace can NOT be given before the
  start of the Middle Ages.

II. Mutually Assured Advancement tech Plan (MAAP)

• FREE and The Council agree to cooperate on gaining knowledge
  to get Republic asap, and quickly advance into the Middle Ages.
• Both teams agree to not execute a "slow burn" in getting any
  technologies in favor of stockpiling gold, unless explicitly approved
  by the other team. Essentially, both teams agree to do their level
  best to proceed in tech at a rapid pace and not look for ways benefit
  at the expense of the other team.
• Both teams agree to stick to the following tech plan as close as possible.
  (For ease of reference, all tech beaker values are the base costs,
  according to CAII)
  Note: This chart assumes average beaker rate of 50bpt&#8230; we're
  sure this won't be accurate over the life of the AA, but we're aiming
  more to show progression rather than "actual" turns&#8230; operating under
  the assumption that both teams will progress in beaker counts at about
  the same pace, making the relative dates of discovery about equal to
  what's shown. Again, this depends on mutual good-faith.
  
  
  
• The MAAP can only be canceled or modified based on joint agreement
  of both teams.
• The MAAP naturally expires after the exchange of our respective
  Bonus era advancement techs, but The Council and FREE both hereby
  express their desire to negotiate a new MAAP agreement for the Middle
  Ages at that point.

III. US vs. THEM

• Both teams agree to not conduct any trades with foreign
  powers unless the deal is explicitly approved by the other team and
  factored into how it will affect the MAAP.
• If either team meets a foreign power, they will immediately notify
  the other of the contact. Whether or not the in-game contact is shared
  will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis for maximum mutual benefit
  (in making techs cheaper for us and not for our foes).
• This agreement of coordinated diplomacy will last indefinitely. It
  may only be cancelled by mutual agreement, or by five turns of written
  notice.
• The coordinated diplomacy part of this treaty may be cancelled
  independently of the Peace Treaty, but not independent of the MAAP.

To a bright and glorious future for both our peoples!

Speaking with the voice of The Council, General_W

 

[azzaman333]

I don't like the Us VS Them part. Seems a little controlling to me.