[C3C] COTM172 Sumeria Demigod

[Più Freddo]

COTM CLXXII Sumeria Demigod

How advanced will the artistic prowess and societal structure of the Sumerians ever become?

 

[Più Freddo]

In this game, you will rule as Gilgamesh over the Sumerians, who are Scientific and Agricultural and start the game with the knowledge of Bronze Working and Pottery. This is a Demigod-level game. The Sumerian Unique Unit is the Enkidu Warrior, a Spearman for the price of a Warrior. This game is designed by Più Freddo.

Rule Changes

• You have been given an extra Enkidu Warrior
• The Temple is called a Ziggurat

Starting Position

Scope of the Game

• Normal Map
• Continents, 5 billion years old, 60% ocean
• Normal, warm climate
• 7 Opponents
• Raging Barbarians

Time Plan

• The game is released on July 1, 2025
• Submissions are due by September 30, 2025

Game Release Page


Spoilers are free. Please use your judgement!


@The_J
@Blake00

 

[templar_x]

nice, unusual combi factory material, that is!
t_x

 

[Più Freddo]

I thought we should make good use of the Enkidu Warrior... Barbarians are Raging!

 

[Più Freddo]

I will post the save file here tomorrow morning. Should be around midnight on the American east coast.

 

[Più Freddo]

This is the game save file for this game. Have fun!

 

[milr]

Got off to a SURPRISING fantastic start, Setler 2 (first I built) popped a Settler from Goody Hut. That popped settler then popped another Settler from a Goody Hut!
Start Settler + Built Settler = 4 settlements.
Thought that possibillity had veen eliminated some while back.

Plenty of time of course remqins for me to waste away the advantage!

 

[Più Freddo]

Setler 2 (first I built) popped a Settler from Goody Hut. That popped settler then popped another Settler from a Goody Hut!
Start Settler + Built Settler = 4 settlements.
Thought that possibillity had veen eliminated some while back.

I thought so as well!

 

[Lanzelot]

Perhaps we need to let an experienced modder take a look at our .bix/.biq files?!
I have a vague memory about how it was supposed to work: it depends on which unit (settler or worker) is marked as your "starting unit #1". And then you can get either this one or the other one from huts...
(But then I remember other GOTMs/COTMs, where I definitely got a worker from a hut! So something can't be right here?! )

 

[Più Freddo]

This is the way the games are set up. We have also corrected the number of initial "unit #1" and "unit #2" the AI gets at different levels. We used for a while to have AI with many Workers and few Settlers...

 

[LaSalle]

Just achieved a long hard domination victory. It took all summer to conquer the massive amount of land.in this game. Went to Monarchy because of the lack of luxuries in the early game and cheap Enkidu warriors for MP’s. Stayed in Monarchy because I was always at war. Even when Communism became available it didn’t seem to be worth the 4-8 turns of anarchy to switch. IIn most cities, I built almost nothing but military units, barracks, and libraries (for cultural expansion). I built universities in my core 6-8 cities and market places once cities were over size 7 for happiness. I had a small tech lead through the entire game and was able to fund my military by selling techs, resources, and luxuries mainly to the Persians for hundreds of gpt while I was at war on the other continent..
Thank you Piu for setting up a great (but very long) game!

 

[Cotta]

Got off to a SURPRISING fantastic start, Setler 2 (first I built) popped a Settler from Goody Hut. That popped settler then popped another Settler from a Goody Hut!
Start Settler + Built Settler = 4 settlements.

Sorry, but just as Lanzelot said this is strange. You already have a Unit with attack (Enkidu), so you ran into a goody hut an never gain a settler or a worker...

 

[Ankka]

Instead of settlers I got an army from a goody hut when I popped it with an enkidu warrior. Saved it for later, so didn't really help at all for the early game.

Didn't help me with the game, I think the 60% water maps are so much land to settle my early game is too slow. Probably could have used the army a lot earlier for some aggression, too.

Second island civs ended up getting philosophy right before me and after that I never properly caught up. My main settler city was the only city to get hit by disease, too, which slowed the expansion some. Felt like I had terrible luck with galleys too, barely missed getting contact with them for a long time even though I saw the borders. Should have gone for monarchy for unlimited warfare, maybe might have been able to handle the situation.

 

[Lanzelot]

I got an army from a goody hut

Never seen that before?! Didn't know that was possible.

I have seen something strange in this game: can it be, that the Temple of Artemis is not working properly in this mod? In my game, the Zulus built it, but I didn't see any increase in their culture graph (which you normally see once a civ builds Artemis). So it looks like it didn't give them the expected free Temples. But when I captured it later on, I got a free "Ziggurat" in each town on that continent, and the expected +2cpt.
Has perhaps Artemis been modified to provide free "Ziggurats" instead of Temples, and since Ziggurats can be built only by Sumeria(?), the other nations don't get any benefit from Artemis?!
(Would be kind of unfair to the AI... They simply wasted 350 shields...)

The only other explanation would be, that the Zulus already had a Temple in each of their towns, when they finished Artemis. (Which is highly unlikely?!)

 

[templar_x]

(Would be kind of unfair to the AI... They simply wasted 350 shields...)

You can call it "unfair".
You can also call it the AI´s forte...
t_x

 

[Più Freddo]

I guess there is another possible explanation: The effect of the Temple of Artemis could be programmed to be expressed in any Improvement named "Temple". That would be stupid beyond belief, so it sounds reasonable.

As far as I remember, I just went to the Temple in the editor and changed its name to Ziggurat. I had expected all tribes to get Ziggurats instead of Temples.

 

[Lanzelot]

Could also just be a "false alarm": in the replay after the game I noticed, that the Zulus had a very small empire, and the handful of extra Temples/Ziggurats just might not have made a big enough impact to be noticeable in the culture graph. Also it looked to me in the replay, as if 4 turns after the wonder completion message the 2-3 towns of theirs, which so far did not yet have it, got their first culture expansion.

Perhaps other players, in whose games Artemis was built by a bigger nation, can share their observation?

 

[Ankka]

Never seen that before?! Didn't know that was possible.

No, I have never seen it either, and since there were reports of getting settlers from huts while having an active settler, I think there was probably something subtly wrong in the game settings.

I was so confused by it I didn't really use it for anything useful. In hindsight should at that point have gone straight for Iron Working and build a sword army ASAP instead of trying to colonize all the available area peacefully first. Although the nearest neighbors were so far it would still have been quite a long trek to get there.

 

[ignas]

Army would have been amazing from hut!

Who knows when GOTM page is coming back and any alternative methods to submit GOTM games while it's down?

 

[LaSalle]

Who knows when GOTM page is coming back and any alternative methods to submit GOTM games while it's down?

I would suggest that everybody that played post their victory condition (or loss), date, and Firaxas score on this forum thread when the game ends 30 September. At least we can compare how we did even though there will be no Jason score or official ranking. Post other games on the corresponding thread.