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crosslink for religion ideas

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by Tom Veil, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. Tom Veil

    Tom Veil Chieftain

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    I'm sure many of you know about this, but I just discovered it:

    The Total Realism modpack makes a great deal of religious reforms, including many that we have been discussing for Rhye's, such as:
    1. Eliminating Confucianism, to be replaced with Zoroastrianism
    2. Making each religion unique, with benefits and handicaps
    3. Among those handicaps, Judaism doesn't spread as rapidly

    I know that it's not simple to "cut and paste" one mod into another when you have two very complex mods like TR and Rhye's, but I really like what TR did. I think it should be the standard that we refer to when debating how to modify the role of religion in Rhye's.
     
  2. Stellan_87

    Stellan_87 Chieftain

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    Wasn't confusiaism very important to the Japanese society aswell as the Chinese community..even if its not so much of a religion as a teaching of values i think it should be kept.
     
  3. kairob

    kairob Biohazard

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    I dont I think it would be like have the equivilant of "Platonic thought" as a religion...
     
  4. thenooblet22

    thenooblet22 Chieftain

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    Yes, I am sick of the arguements over which religions should be included. Here's my thoughts:

    Confucianism, though not a religion by nature, was a deep-seeded philosophy which helped unify the Chinese culture even under foreign rule. Confucian values and ideas also inspired and expanded the Chinese burreacracy. The Neo-Confucian emphasis on rank, obligation, deference, and traditional rituals reinforced class, age, and gender distinction in the Chinese society.

    Buddhism, though believed to be nothing more than a branch of Hinduism, heavily influence India's neighbors, such as Indochina and the South East Indies. More importantly, though strongly resisted by the Neo-Confucians, several variants of Buddhism appealed to the masses of the Chinese and other Asian populations, establishing thousands of monastaries.

    I deeply resent the addition of new religions, especially those insignifigant as Zoroastrianism, an unpopular religion that mainly resided with the Persian elite. What's next? Egyptian polytheism because it's cool? Let's keep the ones that actually had wordly impacts that are still seen today.
     
  5. SilverKnight

    SilverKnight Chieftain

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  6. holy king

    holy king Chieftain

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    hail to the monster!!!
     
  7. Tom Veil

    Tom Veil Chieftain

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    +2 happiness (from people who get the joke)
    +2 unhappiness (doubled if your nation controls Kansas)
    +25% science (from unique scientific developments)
    -2 food (people too fearful to eat pasta; starve to death)
     

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