Ossric
Hedonistic Ruler
no symbols, just red & green light. Why need symbols??
Crosswalk Signs
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MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
We employ the highly sophisicated system of the little green man and his evil twin brother the little red man.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Yes, there are many immigrants in New York, but how hard is it to figure out? One is white and says one word, the other is red and says another word.
Anyone can figure that out after seeing one other person who knows the system cross the street.
Anyone can figure that out after seeing one other person who knows the system cross the street.
bobgote
Trousers
White?
that makes no sense!
the colour for go is green. having white instead of green is going to be a lot more confusing for immigrants.
how much easier is a green walking man and a red standing man?
Perfection
The Great Head.
And, what about color blind immigrants?
I bet they can't figure it out!
They need the symbols!
I bet they can't figure it out!
They need the symbols!
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
So what if they're colorblind? As I said a million times, you need to see ONE person cross the street to see when to go! And if, for some reason, you can't do that, you can always just walk when there are no cars about to hit you!
Anyway, white is probably easier to see from a distance than green. Or maybe its cheaper to make a white light. Who knows.
Anyway, white is probably easier to see from a distance than green. Or maybe its cheaper to make a white light. Who knows.
bobgote
Trousers
what if there aren't any other people? the system has to work on the individual level or it doesn't make sense. and you could well take up the anarchic system of crossing whenever, but what if the cars don't stop? who is responsible if someone gets hit because there is no crossing system? that won't work.
and there isn't a great distance. maybe 20 metres or so. cost wouldn't be a big issue either. they can afford to make red lights, so why not green? Colour is a better way of getting your message across than words anyway, and if you're using colour in your traffic lights (for cars) then you have to remain consistant in the system for pedestrians. White light is a silly idea all round.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
OK, so these are the options:
1) Spend $0 and hurt the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods.
2) Spend a few million so the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods can cross safely.
Which do you choose?
1) Spend $0 and hurt the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods.
2) Spend a few million so the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods can cross safely.
Which do you choose?
Perfection
The Great Head.
Well were going to have to replace them when they wear out anyways...
bobgote
Trousers
well, they aren't the options at all, as far as I can see (although i may just be a visually impaired, uneducated foreign national).Originally posted by cgannon64
OK, so these are the options:
1) Spend $0 and hurt the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods.
2) Spend a few million so the colorblind illiterate immigrants who live in abandoned neighborhoods can cross safely.
Gothmog
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First let me say that the newest crosswalk signs use LED's which are much more efficient than old signs, if NY has opted to use these they will pay for themselves in a few years.
Second, I don't mind the little man - doesn't bother me. The whole 'walk' 'don't walk' paradigm was lost on me anyway. It does seem better to use a symbol that doesn't rely on the English language or red/green color distinction to me.
Second, I don't mind the little man - doesn't bother me. The whole 'walk' 'don't walk' paradigm was lost on me anyway
. It does seem better to use a symbol that doesn't rely on the English language or red/green color distinction to me.Sims2789
Fool me once...
have you ever seen this one?
Sims2789
Fool me once...
my city uses both. in the central part of the main island, we have words, but on the west and east, we have symbols. we use symbols on bay farm island as well.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
We use white walking man/red hand. It is vital for a region where nearly one tenth of the population cannot speak English.
Akka
Moody old mage.
A walking green man when you can go, an immobile red man when you can't.
Seems, according to the poll, that the vast majority has symbols and not words, anyway
Seems, according to the poll, that the vast majority has symbols and not words, anyway
Sims2789
Fool me once...
our words in the middle part of the island are colored. white for walk. blinking red for hurry up and solid red for stop. we should only use symbols, since my city, Alameda, has the second-most number of nationalities of any city in the USA(behind Queens, New york City, but i say that doesn't count since Queens isn't it's own city )
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SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
The signs here in Calgary are the hand and walking guy. I like these better than the words because:
A)They are the only kind I have ever had tp use
B)It certainly helps the immigrants who don't speak English that well yet, and Canada has alot of immigrants
A)They are the only kind I have ever had tp use
B)It certainly helps the immigrants who don't speak English that well yet, and Canada has alot of immigrants
Red hand (flashing means "hurry up") & white man walking. We're phasing-in the chirping (go ahead) tone, too.
My toddler understands these, with one hitch: His Japanese word for "carry me" - "dakko" as he says it - sounds so close to the crosswalk chirp I have to fight my conditioning not to pick him up, but actually lead him across the road.
These symbols are also good for tourists, and what's good for tourism is good for the economy. On the other hand, we might do well to reverse-wire a strategic crosswalk near the tourist district, and wait for prey. We could herd tourists towards it.
My toddler understands these, with one hitch: His Japanese word for "carry me" - "dakko" as he says it - sounds so close to the crosswalk chirp I have to fight my conditioning not to pick him up, but actually lead him across the road.
These symbols are also good for tourists, and what's good for tourism is good for the economy. On the other hand, we might do well to reverse-wire a strategic crosswalk near the tourist district, and wait for prey. We could herd tourists towards it.
Siegmund
King
As long as we're on the subject of crosswalks....
How many of you have the audible signals, as well as the visible ones? I've experienced these on trips a few times -- Salt Lake City, UT, and Victoria, BC both have them in abundance. They are aids for the blind... a single repeated tone when it is safe to cross north-south, and a two-note ****oo-like sound when safe to cross east-west - or vice versa, I forget which way round it is.
On a busy street I don't mind it and think it's a good idea .... under other circumstances (and even on the same corner, at two in the morning) the noise is a bit obnoxious.
How many of you have the audible signals, as well as the visible ones? I've experienced these on trips a few times -- Salt Lake City, UT, and Victoria, BC both have them in abundance. They are aids for the blind... a single repeated tone when it is safe to cross north-south, and a two-note ****oo-like sound when safe to cross east-west - or vice versa, I forget which way round it is.
On a busy street I don't mind it and think it's a good idea .... under other circumstances (and even on the same corner, at two in the morning) the noise is a bit obnoxious.
We have them in Vancouver, BC. That "****oo" was the chirp my little one makes when he wants to be picked up.
Hadn't realized the North-South, East-West distinction.
In Japan, townships take pride in their own unique little crosswalk melodies. The sidewalks and pedestrian crossings there are also paved with bright yellow bumply tiles one can feel without seeing.
An old crosswalk trick I miss from this Province was that many changed instantly when pressed three times rapidly. I guess that was for the blind, so they'd know when the light changed.
Hadn't realized the North-South, East-West distinction.
In Japan, townships take pride in their own unique little crosswalk melodies. The sidewalks and pedestrian crossings there are also paved with bright yellow bumply tiles one can feel without seeing.
An old crosswalk trick I miss from this Province was that many changed instantly when pressed three times rapidly. I guess that was for the blind, so they'd know when the light changed.
