Crusader Kings 2
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Trying as jews/khazars. Going ok, but byzantium, the safarids (who have taken all of armenia) and the abbassids are way too stable. Expanded a bit in the north, (but slavic and suomensko lands cost too many soldiers for that gain), expanded a fair bit into hungary untill i met catholics. I might try bulgaria when the byzantine empire is distracted.
Is the horse archer retinue good? Cause it certainly aint no cataphracts
Is the horse archer retinue good? Cause it certainly aint no cataphracts
GAGA Extrem
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The last time I played (it has been quite a while) horse archers where the best unit in the game. I'd MURDER all my sons to get my hands on a retinue for them.
Really hasn't changed. Once I played as a Tengri guy in PB before TOG came out and HA retinues were so damn wonderful.
If a cruel, kinslayer coward didnt plunge the byzantines into civil war, i dont know what will. Within 50y ive got the seljuks on my ass... I think i might switch to EU4 for the moment, untill RoI comes along. jews arent tht intereristing to play either. And so annoying when you do passover and half of them dont come for no reason
Killin a bunch of emperors.
doesnt trigger with only 30% max plot power
Stop being an unlikable Stark.
No I mean your dip and intrigue probably just suck.
Fabio1701
King
A funny thing happened: I was trying to get a civ5BNW achievement, so I came to civfanatics for help because it wasn't activating. I was told that it is a known bug, and I can load a save game which is listed here to unlock all the achievements. Well that just totally killed civ for me, I have tried but I just have no more desire to play it after 1000 hours learning that any goober can load all the saves and get all the achievements. What is then the point of them?!
So I thought, lets try a little CK2 again. I've not played since the aztec invasion and unification of Rome DLC. Last time I played I managed to get literally conquer the map minus 10 provinces in asia, and destroy all religions but my Orthodox Christianity, so the appeal of the game had gone down a bit. (Not sure if something happens should you take the ENTIRE map, but I couldn't be bothered to wait for the fake casus belli to generate.)
Anyways, I just got the vikings DLC, and I LOVE IT! I have waited long to play the pagans, I think all the different pagan religions are nicely different, the idea of formalizing them is pretty cool and the game has a new layer of depth.
And to top it all off? Concubines.
millions of millions of concubines. All of them lustful.
I am very much looking forward to this India expansion thing, but do all these expansions have to cost so damned much? 15 Euros... pffffff That's half a game!
So I thought, lets try a little CK2 again. I've not played since the aztec invasion and unification of Rome DLC. Last time I played I managed to get literally conquer the map minus 10 provinces in asia, and destroy all religions but my Orthodox Christianity, so the appeal of the game had gone down a bit. (Not sure if something happens should you take the ENTIRE map, but I couldn't be bothered to wait for the fake casus belli to generate.)
Anyways, I just got the vikings DLC, and I LOVE IT! I have waited long to play the pagans, I think all the different pagan religions are nicely different, the idea of formalizing them is pretty cool and the game has a new layer of depth.
And to top it all off? Concubines.
millions of millions of concubines. All of them lustful. I am very much looking forward to this India expansion thing, but do all these expansions have to cost so damned much? 15 Euros... pffffff That's half a game!
Fabio1701
King
No, I don't play with mods, not even really basic ones. I tried for a while, but decided to go for the achievements so gave up on them (you can't get any achievements with any mods active). Many people confirmed for me the achievement had a known bug and can only be unlocked in some weird instance. But it wasn't the bugged achievement that ruined it for me, I could live with not having accomplished one or two achievements because of bugs. Its the readily available save games that any noob can use to get the achievements: that is what killed it for me.
Anyway, CK2 as got a layer of political intrigue missing in civ.
Well to be fair, a lot of achievements you can get by setting up the game specificly so it will fire. By playing on the lowest difficulty for a start. For example, play as netherlands on an archipelago duel map with spain, you'll get that achievement. Play as venice on a duel map and wait for a religion and capture the holy city...
And that isnt that different for CK2. There are a few guides on how to get the holy smoke achievement easily using byzantium, or by playing on the lowest difficulty and cnquering england as denmark or norway...
And that isnt that different for CK2. There are a few guides on how to get the holy smoke achievement easily using byzantium, or by playing on the lowest difficulty and cnquering england as denmark or norway...
... why would you choose cheevos over mods? They aren't even worth imaginary epeen points like they are on consoles because there's no steam point system.
Or you save-game edit. If the game would knock it off with the boy popes I could get away without it, but I want the right feel so I keep editing them.
BvBPL
Pour Decision Maker
I'm finishing up a CKII Jewish game. It is so much fun.
I had a 1066 start w/ the Khazars. I tried a 867 start a few times, but I was bumped out pretty quickly.
Holy moly is the game hard when you are the only one with a particular religion. I was beset on all sides by rulers of other religions. It was wicked tough.
However, that also made it interesting. Because marriage options to non-Jews were limited, I ended up building up a huge dynasty that intermarried with itself. That did mean that for almost all the time my count-level and higher vassals were of my dynasty. Which was nice for the diplomatic boost but also caused some trouble because nearly every body had a claim of some sort.
I started by moving up into Cumania and creating the Tartarian Empire (east of the Urals). Then I moved down into Alaina and Georgia (Eastern Turkey region) w/ a goal of getting to the Promised Land and building the Third Temple. I even made a merchant republic on the shores of the Black Sea to help with this.
Then the Mongols came along and really kicked my tail. They basically moved me out of Tartaria all together. I was worried that on losing my longest-held provinces I would be at a serious disadvantage. They managed to destroy my merchant republic and really press me. I had to move my capitol to central Georgia.
That forced me to keep moving further south into the rapidly disintegrating Muslim states. I had to pick and choose my wars carefully because my holy war CB would often cause my enemies to bring in allies. Plus I was under constant threat from the Byzantine Empire. I relied a lot on mercenaries, which meant trying to keep my gold up. I also heavily invested in horse archer armies.
I did try to convert the Tengri Mongols to Judaism but they went for Orthodoxy instead, which could have been really dangerous being sandwiched between two Orthodox Mongol hordes and the Byzantines.
Eventually, the initial two Mongol hordes ran out of steam. Almost right after the last invasion of them upon my people, several of the counties they took rebelled. To my surprise, they achieved independence from the Mongols. Their leaders were Jews of my dynasty so I was able to take them under my wing as vassals.
I was able to keep pushing further and further south until I reached the Levant. At that point, I had to engage in several holy wars w/ Pisa who had taken the Holy Land in a crusade. The Sunnis tried a Jihad against me, but I was able to turn it aside.
Around this time, a second merchant republic bizarrely sprung up on its own in Galilee. While my first merchant republic was planned and ended up w/ a pretty powerful trade network, this one hasn't gone anywhere. Very strangely, it is currently run (some 100 years after its creation) by a German Catholic ex-peasant leader. All but one of his stats are zeros. Very strange.
Almost immediately after liberating the Holy Land and forming the Kingdom of Israel, Tamburlaine showed up and started to punch me. I lost a duchy to him, but one of the counties flipped back to one of my vassals in what can only assume was a succession issue. I was very thankful for this b/c I knew they would attack that one county next time, rather than going after bigger game. I need not have worried, once the truce ran out and they declared war on me again I was able to defeat them and retain the county. This stopped the Timurds from attacking me again as I think they then ran out of steam.
Then I got hit w/ a crusade against the Holy Land. This attack was tough to defend against, but I managed w/ some fancy footwork.
As I write this, my game is nearing the 15th century and I control Alaina, Georgia, nearly all of Mesopotamia, Israel, and a sizeable chunk of the Turkish interior. I was able to rebuild the Temple and recreate the Kingdom of Israel.
As the game winds into the late years towards its end, a Jewish adventurer from my dynasty just showed up w/ a goal to reclaim the duchy of Itil, on the north shore of the Caspian, from the Timurids. That was my initial duchy. I am going to offer to join his war and help him push back the Mongols.
Update: Just after joining the adventurer's war, another adventurer popped up to press his claim against the Zealots, the Jewish holy mercenary order. Which is kind of bizarre.
I had a 1066 start w/ the Khazars. I tried a 867 start a few times, but I was bumped out pretty quickly.
Holy moly is the game hard when you are the only one with a particular religion. I was beset on all sides by rulers of other religions. It was wicked tough.
However, that also made it interesting. Because marriage options to non-Jews were limited, I ended up building up a huge dynasty that intermarried with itself. That did mean that for almost all the time my count-level and higher vassals were of my dynasty. Which was nice for the diplomatic boost but also caused some trouble because nearly every body had a claim of some sort.
I started by moving up into Cumania and creating the Tartarian Empire (east of the Urals). Then I moved down into Alaina and Georgia (Eastern Turkey region) w/ a goal of getting to the Promised Land and building the Third Temple. I even made a merchant republic on the shores of the Black Sea to help with this.
Then the Mongols came along and really kicked my tail. They basically moved me out of Tartaria all together. I was worried that on losing my longest-held provinces I would be at a serious disadvantage. They managed to destroy my merchant republic and really press me. I had to move my capitol to central Georgia.
That forced me to keep moving further south into the rapidly disintegrating Muslim states. I had to pick and choose my wars carefully because my holy war CB would often cause my enemies to bring in allies. Plus I was under constant threat from the Byzantine Empire. I relied a lot on mercenaries, which meant trying to keep my gold up. I also heavily invested in horse archer armies.
I did try to convert the Tengri Mongols to Judaism but they went for Orthodoxy instead, which could have been really dangerous being sandwiched between two Orthodox Mongol hordes and the Byzantines.
Eventually, the initial two Mongol hordes ran out of steam. Almost right after the last invasion of them upon my people, several of the counties they took rebelled. To my surprise, they achieved independence from the Mongols. Their leaders were Jews of my dynasty so I was able to take them under my wing as vassals.
I was able to keep pushing further and further south until I reached the Levant. At that point, I had to engage in several holy wars w/ Pisa who had taken the Holy Land in a crusade. The Sunnis tried a Jihad against me, but I was able to turn it aside.
Around this time, a second merchant republic bizarrely sprung up on its own in Galilee. While my first merchant republic was planned and ended up w/ a pretty powerful trade network, this one hasn't gone anywhere. Very strangely, it is currently run (some 100 years after its creation) by a German Catholic ex-peasant leader. All but one of his stats are zeros. Very strange.
Almost immediately after liberating the Holy Land and forming the Kingdom of Israel, Tamburlaine showed up and started to punch me. I lost a duchy to him, but one of the counties flipped back to one of my vassals in what can only assume was a succession issue. I was very thankful for this b/c I knew they would attack that one county next time, rather than going after bigger game. I need not have worried, once the truce ran out and they declared war on me again I was able to defeat them and retain the county. This stopped the Timurds from attacking me again as I think they then ran out of steam.
Then I got hit w/ a crusade against the Holy Land. This attack was tough to defend against, but I managed w/ some fancy footwork.
As I write this, my game is nearing the 15th century and I control Alaina, Georgia, nearly all of Mesopotamia, Israel, and a sizeable chunk of the Turkish interior. I was able to rebuild the Temple and recreate the Kingdom of Israel.
As the game winds into the late years towards its end, a Jewish adventurer from my dynasty just showed up w/ a goal to reclaim the duchy of Itil, on the north shore of the Caspian, from the Timurids. That was my initial duchy. I am going to offer to join his war and help him push back the Mongols.
Update: Just after joining the adventurer's war, another adventurer popped up to press his claim against the Zealots, the Jewish holy mercenary order. Which is kind of bizarre.
Fabio1701
King
^^ very cool story. I look forward to trying to carve out a Jewish empire. Starting in 867 I think has also expanded the game for me a bit. I am also looking forward to playing the african pagans.
back when the game first came out and you could only play christians, I tried playing the only christian king on the african continent south of egypt (in 1066). I would always get squashed immediately by the intifadahs. Has anyone ever succeeded in breaking out of that surrounding?
back when the game first came out and you could only play christians, I tried playing the only christian king on the african continent south of egypt (in 1066). I would always get squashed immediately by the intifadahs. Has anyone ever succeeded in breaking out of that surrounding?
PhilBowles
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There was an Ethiopian 'after action report' somewhere on this part of the forum - just search for the other CKII thread.
Also, read this:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-the-Shadow-of-Certain-Painful-Doom-Abyssinia
Thank me later.
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