I was looking at my "Hall of Fame" and the victories that I'd won. After assessing the information, I determined that most of my victories were cultural. I started thinking about this victory type and how I'd won it so frequently. It all boiled down to spending money on cultural city-states and hitting the Enter key 400 times. How lovely! What a fascinating way to spend ~400 turns! During most of my games I literally just hit Enter a dozen times until I had to change production for a building. Then I started pondering diplomatic victories. You make sure each city has 2 or 3 trading posts, set your cities to Gold Focus, hit enter and occasionally use your mouse for maybe 3 clicks. What I'm sure everybody with an IQ above ~3 has already figured out after reading this is how simple (read: boring) these victory conditions are. Sure there's a bit of worker and city management, but it's meaningless, especially when you compare it to scientific and especially domination victories which are a massive chore. I'd like to dedicate this thread to discussing ways to improve/complicate these two victory types as I feel they are the two easiest to achieve and require fairly little work. In my opinion, a diplomatic victory should solely rely on your actions throughout the course of that game. Gold should have little to no say in how much you influence a city-state. Another note, city-states should have a trading/discussion screen as with other civilizations. This is personal opinion but I'd be interested in hearing everybody else's in contrast to my own. As for cultural victories, uhhh, I'm at a loss for ideas.