Cultural Great Leaders

[Kubz]

I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with this idea, but how about great leaders that would represent the great artists, composers, and writers of a civilization that would boost culture in some way. I'm not sure what would create them, but I suppose they could either rush build or boost the culture of a city or the civilization as a whole. Coming up with the names of the cultural leaders might be difficult for some of the civs but even the Zulus have some writers- Thomas Mofolo, R.R.R. Dhlomo. The Turko-Mongol ruler Timur despite his savagery even patronized the arts. Many of the civilizations its very easy to come up with names.
Spain-Pablo Picasso, Miguel de Cervantes, Francisco de Goya, Diego de Velazquez, El Greco, Salvador Dali, Andres Segovia.
America-Ernest Hemingway, Frank Lloyd Wright, Mark Twain, Angie Dickenson, Aaron Copland, Edgar Alan Poe, Louis Armstrong.
Russia-Pyotyr Tchaikovsky, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Leo Tolstoy, Igor Stravinsky, Alexander Pushkin, Anton Chekhov, Maxim Gorki
Japan-Seiji Ozawa, Unkei, Patricio Hearn, Basho, Korin, Murasaki Shikibu, Sesshu, Hiroshige, Hokusai

 

[BorgeoisBuffoon]

It's a very cool idea, but it'll be difficult to come up with names for every civ. Look at Mongolia, Celtica, and the Aztecs for instance. We'll be lucky to find just three names for them.

Besides, you never know how many could be inaccurate....

 

[casual_moose]

good idea maybey you could get them once your culture reaches a certian level or something...but what would they rush build? maybey improvements that generate culture other than wonders? and maybey you could put them in a city to generate Xamount of culture per turn...

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

Good idea, i think they were going to put something like that in, but it failed so they took it out. Hopefully it will be in Civ 4.

 

[NeonInfusion]

I have an idea. When you build "Sun Tzu's Art of War", Sun Tzu appears for you civ. Of course, China would lack that leader.

 

[Seanirl]

Celtica

I can think of a few... of course, none are ancient, but they still count.

Michael Cusack (founder of the Gaelic Athletics Association)
James Joyce (author of Ulysees)

uh... can't think of any more at the moment... 'cept maybe Padraig Pearse.

 

[slothman]

I thought Homer wrote Ulysses? Oh wait that's a different book and author. I think different kinds of leaders could be added. Religious when all your cities hanve no unhappy. Industry when you have a lot of production and so on. Of course each would only have a small chance of appearing under those conditions.

 

[LordFrostbite]

look here : Religious Great Leaders For a little help on this topic .

 

[JonathanValjean]

I like your idea, Kubz!

 

[Ankka]

So do I.

 

[Pirate]

Thanks for getting my back, LordFrostbite. I proposed that a while back, expanding the inital concept of Religious Great Leaders to include Cultural leaders too. I also posted a summary of the idea in the "Official Civ4 Ideas Thread" - see
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69291

Basically I proposed that they could increase total culture production by 25% for 20 turns, rush a culture flip of a rival city, and several other uses such as leading a crusading army whose victory would enable a "Holy Pilgramige" small wonder that would act as an instant tourist attraction.

 

[Gainy]

The point of Scientific Great Leaders was so that Builders would be able to get GL's(as they don't fight often). Having a Cultural Great leader takes this too far in my opinion, as builders generally have a large culture(and they are likely to get Scientific GL's also) - plus it would be hard to introduce, having to come up with new certain random circumstances.
The prospect of getting a GL would become too likely, and thus become less special.
There's a thread for these suggestions anyways

Edit: For clarity, although it didn't quite work out

 

[Globetrotter]

There has been a thread some time back regarding Science GL's, that would rush the discovery of a New Technology or so.
I agree with Gainy bo that Cultural GL's is quite more complicated.
Still, it's a cool idea.

 

[Seanirl]

I thought Homer wrote Ulysses? Oh wait that's a different book and author.

Yeah, you're thinking of Homer's Oddysee.

The point of Scientific Great Leaders was so that Builders would be able to get GL's(as they don't fight often). Having a Cultural Great leader takes this too far in my opinion, as builders generally have a large culture(and they are likely to get Scientific GL's also) - plus it would be hard to introduce, having to come up with new certain random circumstances.

Yeah, maybe... no point in going mad with different kinds of leaders.

 

[Pirate]

I think there is a strong case for cultural great leaders in that people like Martin Luther King Jr., Jesus of Nazareth, Ghandi, etc... dramatically changed their society, shifted the popular philosophy, and steered the course of their civilization through non-military and non-scientific means.
This is what cultural great leaders should represent in the game. They should have a random chance to appear whenever a city flips to your culture - representing the revolutionary change in the populous of the city.

 

[LordFrostbite]

Originally posted by Pirate
Thanks for getting my back, LordFrostbite. I proposed that a while back, expanding the inital concept of Religious Great Leaders to include Cultural leaders too. I also posted a summary of the idea in the "Official Civ4 Ideas Thread" - see
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69291

Basically I proposed that they could increase total culture production by 25% for 20 turns, rush a culture flip of a rival city, and several other uses such as leading a crusading army whose victory would enable a "Holy Pilgramige" small wonder that would act as an instant tourist attraction.

No problem pirate