The issue is not whether you can claim technical correctness in some marginal way, the issue is whether your perspective involves severe misapplication.I will point out that I made virtually no specific assertions about "modalities and qualities" of racism faced by Muslims in continental Europe. I simply asserted that Muslims are racialized in Europe and that they face discrimination, a point you now insist you do not disagree with. I am still left wondering what your actual disagreement is.
The concrete issue with that is your lack of appreciation for the particular experience various Europeans majority Muslim communities.
I have also already told you why that is. To put it very bluntly: You are underappreciating the issues regarding class and nationality relevant to said communities because they are less relevant to the dialogue in your country.
I can already hear your "buts"...
So let me preemptively interrupt you: Yes, many of those things are true in theory but somewhere between those things and spanning a grandious arc of "theory" between the Pakistani British and the Kurdish Germans you begin to sound like Hillary Clinton does when she's allowed to talk about African Americans for too long in one go.
No.Why do you refer to germans as "Kartoffels" (potatoes)?
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It seems to be an insult used against ethnic germans by turks. If the implication is that Turks, who are mainly muslim, can be racist against ethnic germans why is assuming the reverse happens some sort of anglo projection?
I do it because it's funny, and because we among ourselves have some significant concerned dialogue about relevant terminology.
We find the terms you guys would use in our place highly problematic, at best.
Well, and also because a bunch of the charges tied to the term are pretty fair.
It's not exactly super rare for Kartoffels to refer to themselves as such for that reason.
The latter one.
Not to discredit the work ethics of Turkish Germans, but rather to lament their lackluster access to time machines: The commonly accepted core of the postwar rebuilding period wasn't in the '70s.the vast exploitation of Muslim and especially Turkish immigrant workers during the postwar rebuilding period?
I think you have just implicitly slighted a whole bunch of people, too.
Erm... there still is a major country with a crusader flag, you appreciate that?I might argue that islamophobic racism is even a German invention, seeing as it has its roots in the crusades.
Maybe they could change the flag to curb Islamophobia.
The Islamophobes there seem to be quite keen to use the flag to make their point.
So maybe it'd work.
Anyway, in summary...
... we need plane tickets for Lexicus and ITSD and Cloud.
So they can come over here.
And talk to some Kurdish Germans, Turkish Germans, Tatar Germans, Albanian Germans, Bosnian Germans and some others.
So Lexicus and ITSD and Cloud can tell them about their grand theory on Islamophobia...
...and how supposedly they are "racialised".
...and how supposedly they are "persons of color".
...and how supposedly they are "non-white".
...and how supposedly they are "not Europeans".
...and how supposedly they are "from Asia".
...and how supposedly most of them are "broadly Arab".
Oh, don't get yourself into some huge work on my account.The SDs are campaigning on a bunch of other areas. The red block (yes, that's the right term) does have concrete suggestions between its parties. They promise a bunch of different things which I could list, but like, there are five parties atm, whose concrete suggestions would require some work to put together beyond my scope of participation here on CFC. But I should probably do that anyways for the sake of this thread. I'll give myself a deadline by Sunday, and if it's not there then, poke me.
That said, the majority of concrete propositions are exactly due to political, economic and moral failings on the side of the right. Because they're rollbacks or fundamental restructurings of initiatives and cuts already done by the right.
I mean, you can if you want to.
Do the blue folks have concrete examples of supposed public radio bias that they go on and on and on about?One big point of the SD is that recently, the big state media conglomorate known as Denmark's Radio was heavily cut to the degree that it had to do away with major sections of its production. Like, a 20% cut in budget. That causes chaos. For example, they used to sport around 200 radio drama series if I remember correctly (I might not, but it's not below 100) and they all disappeared during that major cut by the right since the last election. This was largely unpopular, as Denmark's Radio (DR) actually produces a lot of high-quality stuff with a reasonably high degree of journalistic integrity, its bias being effectively neutral to the Danish standard of politics although sometimes caving in to somewhat unimportant news for the sake of viewership. And for the more silly stuff they produce, people care about that. The right doesn't like the Danish status quo, as our state-influenced market economy and tax system is a quite red shade of capitalism, and as such has called DR "de røde lejesvende" or "the red mercenaries" as part of their spin. DR wasn't the only thing to be cut here, they've also heavily went into the budgeting of public transportation and higher education (and education in general). So this is one of SD's suggestions, to get the budget of DR back up to where it used to be, among other things, funded through a tax increase. On immigration, SD is actually near the same side as Venstre (Liberals) and beyond. They also concretely want to increase foreign aid (which has been heavily cut by the right) as a part of their plan to decrease immigration to Denmark, reinvest money into hospitals that the right has cut, etc.
Or is it just some diffuse "Hmm... we don't like this... it feels too nice, almost as if everybody deserves consideration. That's soft and we don't like it."
That's rather similar to the Schulz fans' playbook from '17.I feel there's a sense of rhetoric among people, that they want to get Denmark back into shape by voting left of centre, Making Denmark Great Again, so to speak.
There was extensive memage to that effect too.
Mega: Make Europe Great Again.
It worked... for about three weeks. Then people remembered how distant the ideal was from the reality of the SPD.
And, well, you know the rest of the story...
Hmm... good thing Bavarians are not that good with languages. If they learn Danish we're both in trouble.Also, btw, the right is expected to land about 39% of the votes according to the latest metric I've read. It's abysmal for their standards and is largely caused by people's abhorrence at stuff like the asylum centres, the burqa ban, the island deportation proposition and the lowering of subsidies to immigrants. Petty stuff, even insignificant stuff like making your police confiscate jewelry from immigrants upon arrival does count in conjuction with people's sense of moralit. At the same time, the right is being radicalized and yes stuff like Stram Kurs is stealing votes from the Danish People's Party.