Ok so after far too many island games, and far to many games as the english i decided to roll a pangea game with a random leader (emp difficulty).. And got darius- start was ok, 2 cows and a marble hill to settle on.. teched AH , saw horsies 6 tiles away and settled next to it.. popped mining and fishing with scouts, so teched the wheel and bronze working Then, i decided to whip and chop a horde of immortals and.... well what can i say? They are just so effective, good against archers, can defend ok too and are a quick unit for pillaging..i cut off romes copper (didnt want to meet spearmen) and not long later.. i have a bunch of roman cities..possibly the smoothest rush ive done? Looking at darius traits - fin and org? it looks like he should be great for an economy and also be able to handle lots of conquered cities better than most..plus cheap courthouses? makes that easier still So.. darius seems pretty much a perfect leader... can someone spot a downside??. If anything it seems easier than incans since immortals are slower to go obsolete? Finally im curious, do people playing darius tend to go immortal crazy as soon as they have horses? or can you afford to settle a few cities first? EDIT in this game i didnt wait.. because i was worried about rome getting iron working and praetorians.. in reality how quickly do you see that happening on emp??