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Dawn of Civilization General Discussion

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Leoreth, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. JHLee

    JHLee Prince

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    One strange thing I have noticed: once you conquer Lisbon you cant give them back to the portuguese.
    The option to grant the city doesnt appear in the trade window,
    Nor does the 'liberate city' option from rhe city list screen gives it back to the portuguese. (The option there actually gives Lisbon to the Spanish!)

    I have experienced similar stuff with Brazilian Belem and Turkic Merv.
     

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  2. 1SDAN

    1SDAN Brother Lady

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    IIRC it's virtually impossible to make the Netherlands capitulate due to a special rule designed to help their AI. Perhaps a second special rule could be created to allow them to capitulate if they don't have their capital city?
     
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  3. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Are the Portuguese alive in that case?
     
  4. 1SDAN

    1SDAN Brother Lady

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    I said this while discussing Economy Civics:
    Could someone inform me of what use-case Public Welfare is designed for?
     
  5. Orbii

    Orbii Warlord

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    Excluding Merjin's civs, the civ is not useful for any UHV plays. It has some use for late game, where happiness can be run up easily and you can get some good commerce out of that. It is also useful for the gold rushing and for areas that cannot support high populations (e.g. Scandinavia, Arabia, Iran). Some of the old youtien Thailand games show how strong Happiness --> Commerce can be (those games also lead the Thai UP to be nerfed by 50%, to the same ratio as Public Welfare - 1:1).

    I will note that in general, the Washington Consensus civics - Democracy, Constitution, Individualism/Egalitarianism, Free Market, Tolerance/Secularism, Nationhood/Multilateralism - is the combination I settle on once available for basically every civ that plays into that era. It is simply what I find plays the best and segues most naturally from Medieval/Renaissance development.
     
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  6. 1SDAN

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    Sounds pretty much like what I figured in terms of Scandinavia, Arabia, and Iran. Though I didn't consider how big 1 Happiness per Commerce could be late game even with high food output.

    I would say that Central Planning is really good for nations like England that have a massive amount of Food in their Core, or Prussia that have a massive amount of rivers in their Core.
     
  7. Sinsyne

    Sinsyne Up is down,black is white

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    Does this break savegame compatibility?
     
  8. Leoreth

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    It broke compatibility with the western tradition of restraint and nuance in musical composition. But that happened a while back, we eventually fixed the issue by abandoning that branch and essentially reconstructing our musical canon from scratch.
     
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  9. Genghis Khaiser

    Genghis Khaiser Prince

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    What does that "Wagner sucks" update mean? Is it an inside joke?
     
  10. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    It means that Wagner sucks. I don't know what's not to understand about that
     
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  11. Jarlaxe Baenre

    Jarlaxe Baenre Emperor

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    People suggested using some music from Wagner as soundtracks in the game. Leoreth is opposed to that. I'm pretty sure that was a music update, and does not include anything from Wagner.

    Just in case you wanted an actual explanation.
     
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  12. JHLee

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    Live and kicking, you can see it in the attached screenshot.
     
  13. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Do you still have the save?
     
  14. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Stalin and Starlight, Stalling a Stallion

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    Hmmmmm... *Furiously takes notes for his next mod*
     
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    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    I have seen reports about the Russian and American settler/conqueror events after discovering Railroad flipping cities without option to refuse, however from looking at the code that should never happen. The event should either spawn a settler or military units. Please keep an eye out for this event and upload a save in case this flips a city, because this is definitely not intended.
     
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    Imagine thinking 1:07:53 is not the transcendent summit of Romanticism
     
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  18. Leoreth

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    Well you can throw out Romanticism as an entire artistic and intellectual movement so I'm inclined to agree.
     
  19. alexey795

    alexey795 Chieftain

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    How can i order the list of cities by their culture to know exactly who is 3th, 6th and so forth and who will get the resource?
    Without checking manually.
     
  20. JHLee

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    Not sure, I'll look it up.

    Meanwhile, a question about Mt Athos Wonder.
    Am I right in assuming that it doubles the GPP output of all wonders AND THEN boosts total GPP output by 50%?
    Whatever its mechanism is, it is definitely different from what its description says (double GPP from buildings).
     

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