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Dawn of Civilization General Discussion

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Leoreth, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. civcivcivcivciv

    civcivcivcivciv Warlord

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    and wembley stadium wonder is broadway building

    something is changed.
     
  2. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Iirc nobody does, and the bonus is disabled. Seemed fairest to me.
     
  3. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    Bonus is disabled for 3000 and 600 too? Because original Rhye UHVs to be first to circumnavigate created a unique sense to win that achievement. History does reward "firsts". We have it in terms of Great People and Liberalism. But these first involve the same thing: teching fast. Circumnavigating is some cool goal that you achieve by exploring, doing something different. I think exploration should be rewarded with something other than goody huts. Something strategic and permanent. Like the bonus.
     
  4. KeeperOT7Keys

    KeeperOT7Keys did nothing wrong

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    it still exists in other versions
     
  5. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    I agree, actually it would be cool to have more things like that.

    The bonus still exists in the other scenarios of course. Disabling it for 1700 AD was the easiest solution, because coding the current levels of map revelation is already a lot of work, and historically the bonus would already be unavailable. I could have given it to the Spanish, but didn't feel it was really necessary.
     
  6. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    Yes, Spanish are in decline in 1700, now I find your solution very reasonable. Unless someone thinks that British should have an edge :undecide:

    Also agree it would be cool to earn bonus of exploration firsts. Like discovering North and South Poles (not present on the map but some random northernmost and southernmost plots can serve as one). Discovering East route to India (west route gets bonus). Discovering Australia (unless you are Indonesia). Or discovering Europe if you are not Maya. Perhaps discovering another continent should always involve some kind of cool stuff. And by continent I mean vanila Civ definition -- separate land mass large enough not to be an island. This way we have 4 continents on the map: Afroeuarasia, Americas, Australia and Antarctica. :crazyeye:
     
  7. Publicola

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    Another potential bonus could be for discovering all coastal tiles around the world. This would reflect the general explosion of discovery and exploration that took place in history, while preserving the essential historical nature of that exploration as being oriented around coastlines (cf. Africa as the 'Dark Continent'). Given that, given its association with coastal trading posts, I'd recommend the bonus for this being something like "+1 trade route in all coastal cities."
     
  8. ezzlar

    ezzlar Emperor

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    I dont like it. While the idea is good it is a freebie for the player. Circumnavigate, american conquerors and liberalism are human player gifts.
     
  9. civcivcivcivciv

    civcivcivcivciv Warlord

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    how can i stop other civilizations collapsing ?

    suddenly disappeared so it make me lonely :(

    no rivals
     
  10. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    A new feature has been added:
     
  11. Alpaya

    Alpaya Chieftain

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    Yes, this is very true. It could be useful to make AI more aimed on these goals too.
     
  12. merijn_v1

    merijn_v1 Black Belt

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    I see that the CNMWizard uses pickling. Wouldn't it be better if you used cPickle instead of pickle? Or would that make hardly any difference?
     
  13. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    I don't think there is a difference between the two in current Python versions. Civ itself is bundled with an older version so it makes sense to use cPickle instead, but the script is only meant to be executed with the local Python interpreter.

    I only store information so you don't have to repeat everything when starting the script again, so that's not even very space or time critical anyway.
     
  14. soul-breathing

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    Leo, I've seen the latest update about citynamemanager. Most of Chinese cities are right, but also some of them are maybe wrong.

    Cheshih, in Chinese we call it 车迟(Chechi), an ancient city state in Uzbekstan today.
    Fuladiwosituoke, in Chinese we call it 海参崴(Haishenwai).
    Qiqihaer-->齐齐哈尔(Qiqihar)
    Chonjin, does it mean Chongjin in North Korea? Then it should be 清津(Qingjin) in Chinese.
    Wonsan-->元山(Yuanshan)
    Pingfang, I don't know where this city is, it seems there isn't a big city named it in China.
    Changqing-->重庆(Chongqing)
    Changdu-->成都(Chengdu)
    Tungliao-->通辽(Tongliao)
    Wuzhow, I can't make sure what this city is, is it 温州(Wenzhou) in Zhejiang Province?
    Chuncheon-->春川(Chunchuan)
    Pusan-->釜山(Fushan)
    Jehol, it's a province but not a city before PRC, after 1955AD, this province had been cancelled, and divided into 3 provinces. I suggest rename it to 承德(Chengde) after China enters modern era.
    Hailaer-->海拉尔(Hailar)
     
  15. civcivcivcivciv

    civcivcivcivciv Warlord

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    there s something problem CN tower building skin is broadcast

    in the sevopedia it s ok

    but in the game the image is just broadcast tower.

    there s no cn tower image.



    and wembley stadium in sevopedia is broad way building.

    please change this next version :)
     
  16. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Thanks, most of these are still Rhyes. I noticed some of these mistakes when porting the names over to the new system, but it was too much work already so I put off doing the research. Will fix later.
     
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    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Okay, they're in. I'm pretty sure Wuzhow is meant to be Wuzhou, I fixed the transliteration.
     
  18. sercer88

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    Ok, in the Consts.py file does the line that reads:

    #Plague
    iImmunity = 20

    mean that your surplus health needs to be +20 in order to avoid the plague? If so, I'll re-set that to +10, just because in my opinion, +20 is just totally impossible. When did the +10 minimum surplus health go away? For RFC I remember always limiting my growth when near a plague period just to avoid this sometimes severe economic strain. If the limit is +20 then it's pointless.
     
  19. sercer88

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    And another python question:
    In the Rise and Fall.py file where it codes the Mongol Hordes against Russia, what is the purpose of the line that reads:

    iWesternLimit = 75

    Mongol units spawn as far West as tile 73 (so far in approx a dozen attempts) so it can't be that.
    I deleted all (Russian) cities at tile 75 or greater and still Mongol Horde units spawned (at x=73 again)
    So I reduced Russian culture to 0 in my cities and changed tile ownership to "barbarian" on any tiles x>74 and Mongol units spawned (at x=73) .......

    What gives?
    I admit, I know nothing about coding, but python seems "reasonably" easy to interpret. I keep on running into quite a few oddities and quirks that I can't understand.
     
  20. merijn_v1

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    20 Is the amount of turns a civs is immune to plague after spawning.
     

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