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Dawn of Civilization General Discussion

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Leoreth, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. ezzlar

    ezzlar Emperor

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    An important insight from RFCE: Dont reward the player for going a militaristic route by providing valuable buildings and civics. "Guilds" is such an example. It gives Knights, grocer and the nice Guilds civic.

    It should be one path for the knight and one for the building/civic.
     
  2. sercer88

    sercer88 Emperor

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    I'd just like to say I really dislike the new AI resource trading mechanism.

    It really discourages trading when you have to give up 12 resources plus a large chunk of GPT just to get 1 resource in return (and no, I'm not talking about an UBER IMPORTANT strategic resource ... just health or happiness.)

    There's practically no incentive to PEACEFULLY gain all the resources in the game. It makes more "sense" to just conquer the city that has your resources rather than use diplomacy.

    Not cool.
     
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  3. DC123456789

    DC123456789 Deity

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    The AI values each resource based on how much they benefit from it now. It's still perfectly possible to do a one-to-one trade (or almost one-to-one trade) with the AI, provided you're trading something they actually want at the moment.
     
  4. sercer88

    sercer88 Emperor

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    I know that. I stand by my statement.
     
  5. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    I think the new AI is now in a place where expensive requests only appear when you're the much bigger empire. I think it is a nice side effect of imperialism that at one point you have to rely on conquest or vassalization instead of trade.
     
  6. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Simperator Knoedel

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    Funny, that's exactly how things work in Civ5.

    You can throw away your disguise, we are onto you, John Shafer!
     
  7. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Actually I like some of the ideas Jon Shafer had, it's just badly put together and applied where they have no place in a Civ game.

    Still hoping that At the Gates will be good by the way.
     
  8. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Simperator Knoedel

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    Aha. Just in case, be aware that I will hire a hitperson if you try implementing 1 Unit per Tile.
     
  9. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    I'd rather turn Civ4 combat into Angry Birds, and I don't even know what that means.
     
  10. merijn_v1

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    I see a modmod coming...
     
  11. Mouthwash

    Mouthwash Escaped Lunatic

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    This isn't strictly DoC-related, but how do I take a screenshot? My laptop needs me to press the FN key, windows key, and print screen at the same time, but when I do it when the game is running it gives me a screenshot of the desktop, as if no program was open at all.

    (I only want this to make a thread about the Varietas graphics).
     
  12. AdrienIer

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    Switching to windowed mode will solve this and allow you to take a screenshot, but I have this problem with other games and it's annoying as hell.
     
  13. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Great, I just finished organized my plans for the mid-term future of DoC and arrived at 12 major features I want to get in. Some of those are really big, but the next four versions of DoC are now basically set (note that I plan to release in shorter intervals). There's a lot of interdependence so I can't do things in order of urgency, but at least I know what to do now. Not sure if I am intimidated or motivated now. Back to work I guess ;)
     
  14. AdrienIer

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    Can you give us a taste of what those changes are ?
     
  15. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Simperator Knoedel

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    New Great Person Type: Great Libertarian, with names like Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard
    -Can settle as Specialist in cities: +10 Gold, +2 Science, + 4 Culture
    -Every time you use them to bulb a tech you receive -10.000 beakers towards Communism
    -Can build new building Libertarianism: Removes City Upkeep (muh invisible hand of the market solves everything), +100% Gold, +10 Happiness with Capitalism, Free Market; +10 Unhappiness with Public Welfare, Central Planning
     
  16. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    I don't really want to make everything public, because I could still change my mind in some places (and have external dependencies in others), but most of it is stuff I have already talked about. In rough order:
    - Religion
    - Warfare Mechanics
    - Unit Roster
    - Stability
    - Uncoupling Civilizations from Player Slots
    - New Rise And Fall implementation
    - Barbarians
    - K-Mod integration

    You forgot unlimited recruitment because of second amendment rights.
     
  17. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Simperator Knoedel

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    Does that mean we finally get Judaism back?

    something something nerf axes give spears bonus vs melee something something plagiarizing

    Ho boy! Does that also count for the Seljuks?

    Yeah because that went so well last time. :lol:
     
  18. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    Three times yes.

    Oh shut up :D

    I am filled with DETERMINATION.
     
  19. Mouthwash

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    coughfogofwarcough

    We've gotta stop calling this a modmod after you strip out literally everything that Rhye did.
     
  20. Leoreth

    Leoreth Prince of Blood Moderator

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    The average mod completely regenerates its code every seven years :D
     

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