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Here's another interesting taser-related death story which appeared in this morning's newspaper:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1112106.ece

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PENSACOLA

Late one night in October, a 17-year-old on a bike was chased by a police officer in a cruiser. When the boy refused to stop, the officer aimed his Taser out the driver's window and fired. The boy fell off the bike and the cruiser ran over him, killing him.

Victor Steen was the fourth person who died in Florida in 2009 in an incident in which a Taser was used. It was the 57th such death since 2001, according to statistics compiled by Amnesty International and the St. Petersburg Times. At the time this placed Florida first in the nation as the state with the most fatalities related to Tasers, a weapon that delivers an incapacitating electrical jolt.

Number 54 was a mentally ill man in Fort Lauderdale who was hit with a Taser in April as he wandered in traffic, refusing to go with police. He had a heart attack and died at a hospital.

Number 55 occurred in Bradenton one week before Victor's death. Police tried to stop him because he didn't have a light on his bicycle. When he ran, police hit him with a Taser. He died within 35 minutes. The autopsy showed heart disease and a small amount of cocaine in his system.

Four days later, police in Panama City fired a Taser "at least twice" at a man who tried to conceal cocaine by swallowing it. He went into cardiac arrest and died.

Taser International, the maker of the weapon, denies that these deaths were caused by its product. Yet, these four unconnected cases illustrate a worrisome trend in Taser use.

There is no question that Tasers frequently save lives by offering law enforcement officers a nonlethal means of stopping people who present a threat to the officers, the public or themselves. But as the four fatal cases from 2009 show, Tasers are also being used to subdue people who appear to pose no threat.

• • •

Victor lived with his mother, Cassandra Steen, in a two-bedroom house in West Pensacola. His father died a few years ago from diabetes. Victor had never been in trouble and was about to get his high school diploma, join the U.S. Army, then go to college in a few years.

Victor's pastors, teachers, family and friends repeatedly described him as "respectful" and "loving," with a "great sense of humor."

"I work with a lot of kids who need guidance, but Victor wasn't one of them. He has a very caring and considerate family and their light shone in him," said Pensacola pastor Guy Johnson, 54.

On the night of his death, Victor went to a high school home:)coming football game then over to a friend's house to plan the birthday party of a child in the family.


"We wanted Victor's help because he was so good with little kids," said Victor's friend, Mike Moultrie.

About 12:45 a.m., said Moultrie, Victor left on a borrowed bike. From there to where the chase started was about 41/2 miles. But it was about 1:45 a.m. that Officer Jerald Ard spotted Victor. Where Victor went after leaving Moultrie's house is unclear.

Ard would later say that he tried to stop Victor because he had seen him at a construction site and thought he may have stolen something. But witness Victor Stallworth said he saw Victor ride his bicycle past the construction site without stopping. Months later, Ard gave investigators a different reason for stopping Victor: He didn't have a light on his bike — only two reflectors.

A video camera on the dashboard of Ard's squad car recorded the brief chase:

Ard spotted Victor and did a fast U-turn to stop him. When Victor didn't stop, Ard veered to the wrong side of the street and up on the sidewalk behind the teenager.

The officer revved the motor, his tires screeching, as he followed Victor into the side yard of an apartment building. With his flashers and PA system on, Ard yelled at Victor to "stop the bike."

It is unclear why Victor disobeyed the order to stop, but the teenager continued pedaling, trying to escape. Ard followed his every move, driving in and out of the wrong lane of traffic and up onto the sidewalk again. One minute and seven seconds into the chase Ard fired his Taser at Victor, who made a turn into a parking lot. About two seconds later, Victor fell to the ground and Ard ran over him.

Witnesses watched from in front of Sluggo's, a hipster vegan restaurant and bar directly across the street, about 50 feet from where Victor was killed. Elementary schoolteacher Rachel Moore said she saw the squad car on the wrong side of the street and heard the "loud click-click" of the Taser. She described the officer's driving as "careless" and said she feared he would hit the bicyclist.

"When the Taser clicked, the kid swung hard to his left over grass into the parking lot. The bike wobbled and he lost control. I don't know if the Taser hit him or the sound of it scared him. But he went down, and the cop turned into the parking lot and immediately ran over him," said Moore, who called 911.

Ard's cruiser dragged Victor, nearly breaking him in half. When the car stopped on top of a low concrete barrier in the parking lot, Ard called for an ambulance and jumped out of the car, yelling, "Dude, you all right? Are you alive? You hear me?"

• • •

Before her son's funeral, Cassandra Steen joined about 125 people in the parking lot where Victor died. Some were family and friends, but most were Sluggo's patrons haunted by what they viewed as the officer's recklessness.

James Lopez, who works in a bookstore, told the St. Petersburg Times: "If you or I hit someone and killed them, we'd be facing vehicular homicide. I don't want this wrong to be dropped."

Jorge Torrens, a sound editor for the local public radio station, saw the end of the chase from his seat at Sluggo's. Torrens, along with about a dozen other patrons, frequently rode his bicycle to Sluggo's.

"The police never stop us," he said. "You have to wonder if it's because we're white, and Victor was ordered to stop because he's black. Did this tragedy have anything to do with racial profiling?"


Victor's mother was so grief-stricken her knees kept buckling and she had to be held up by two friends. One told her: "Look at all of these different people coming together for Victor."

"Yes, yes, I know," she sobbed, "but it hurts too much."

The day after the funeral, Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigator Eli Lawson called Cassandra Steen's newly-hired attorney, Aaron Watson, and told him that TV news was about to report that a paramedic had found a gun in Victor's pocket.

A video, taken from the dashboard of another officer's car, recorded what happened in the minutes before the discovery:

Three officers squatted next to Ard's car, looking under it at Victor. Ard unlocked the passenger side of his car and got something out. The object is light-colored and floppy, but isn't clearly visible. Ard, holding the object, crawled under the car next to Victor's body and stayed there for 40 seconds. Two minutes later, paramedics found a 9mm silver and black semiautomatic in Victor's pocket.

Lab tests showed the gun had been wiped clean. No fingerprints were on it — not Victor's, not anyone's. Victor's family, as well as his pastors and friends, were aghast. Victor was scared of guns, they said. He would not have carried a gun around.


Aaron Watson, who wondered if the gun might have been planted to make the teenager appear dangerous, worried aloud that it would be a distraction from the officer's "reckless pursuit."

"The focus here," Watson told the Times, "should be on why Ard was pursuing Victor in the first place and why he fired a Taser at a kid on a bike from a moving vehicle. The gun really has nothing to do with the issues."

Lawson, the FDLE investigator, was suspicious enough of what he had seen in the video to ask the four-year officer about it.

"Did you put that gun on Victor Steen?" Lawson asked in a taped interview.

Ard answered no, and the investigator changed the subject.


• • •

At first, Cassandra Steen said she didn't want Ard punished, but suspecting the gun was a plant, she became less forgiving.

"Victor died a horrible, brutal death and, after that, his reputation was ruined by the gun. Someone besides Victor needs to be held accountable," she said.

A coroner's inquest was held in February so a Pensacola judge could decide who that should be. An assistant state attorney asked questions of witnesses and law enforcement. As is standard in an inquest, Steen family lawyers were not allowed to verbally question or cross-examine anyone.

Escambia County Judge John Simon concluded: "Mr. Steen desired to avoid apprehension on Oct. 3, 2009. That desire led to Mr. Steen's ill-advised decision to ignore lawful commands … and enter a dimly lit parking lot unaware that a potential hazard was present i.e., the existence of a raised curb. Once Mr. Steen struck the raised curb, he was ejected directly into the path of Officer Ard's vehicle. … It was impossible (based on perception reaction time) for Officer Ard to avoid striking Mr. Steen."

The judge did not find Ard's driving or firing the Taser out of his car window to be questionable in any way.

"Mr. Steen was actively fleeing Officer Ard. … Officer Ard violated no traffic laws in light of the fact that he was actively pursuing Mr. Steen."

Afterward, Victor's lawyers spoke on the courthouse steps: "This ain't the old Wild West. It's Pensacola 2010. It's absolutely outrageous that a boy would be run over and killed for no tail light on a bike," said Bill Cash.

On Oct. 3, when Victor died, the Pensacola Police Department policy didn't specifically prohibit firing a Taser from a moving squad car at someone on a bike. But less than a week later, the deputy chief issued a memo, saying: "Firing a Taser from a moving vehicle or into a moving vehicle is prohibited."

Officials said nothing about whether it was appropriate to use a Taser in cases in which there was no threat to public safety.


At the request of the St. Petersburg Times, nationally known use-of-force expert Dave Klinger, who is a retired Los Angeles police officer and now a senior research scientist at the Police Foundation in Washington, D.C., reviewed documents and videos related to the case.

It didn't make sense to fire a Taser at Victor on the bike, said Klinger, because of the likelihood he would get hurt. Furthermore, he said, Victor was not a suspect in a serious crime.

"You don't Taser people in circumstances that increase the likelihood of injury unless they're a suspect for something like rape or murder," said Klinger.

One Taser probe was found embedded in an outer T-shirt Victor was wearing over another T-shirt. The second probe was on the ground. The medical examiner was unable to determine if the probes pierced Victor's skin because so much skin had been scraped away. And, while the Taser can shock through two inches of clothing, it was impossible to know whether Victor felt the jolt of electricity through his clothes.

"You can hear (the Taser) cycling, sending juice along the wires, but nothing tells you — not the sound or anything else — whether it embeds in his skin," Klinger said. "The moan and wobbling bike before Steen hits the concrete bump suggest he is affected briefly by it, but it's not certain. You just can't say one way or the other."

Maybe, said Klinger, the Taser shocked him — either through skin contact or through his clothes — or maybe the sound of the Taser firing was enough to make him lose balance.

"Something caused the bike to wobble before he hit the bump," he said.

The use-of-force expert didn't understand the officer's driving: "Why doesn't he stay in the appropriate lane and broadcast for help to set up a perimeter?"

And: "He has one hand on the steering wheel and is looking out the window when he fires the Taser, which means he doesn't have complete control over the car. What will happen if Steen falls off the bike?"

In an April memo suspending Ard for two weeks without pay, Pensacola police Capt. Jay Worley faulted Ard with exposing Victor "to unreasonable risk of harm and injury."

From that memo: "Ard drove his cruiser so close to the suspect's bike that it would have been difficult if not impossible for him to stop if the suspect fell from the bike. I also found it disturbing that Officer Ard attempted to Tase the suspect on a bike as he rode next to him."


Dave Klinger: "What the memo says is true, but the department is blaming the officer to overcome problems with its own policy. The focus should be on omissions in the policy at the time of the death."

Klinger's conclusion: "The kid should have stopped. But he shouldn't have died because he didn't."

Incar video of the chase:


Link to video.

Composite video showing footage from another police cruiser of the officer retrieving something from the passenger side of his cruiser and crawling under the car afterwards, where he remained for approximately 40 seconds.

Is fleeing from the police while black sufficient reason for a police officer to act like this? Do you think Ard planted the hangun on Steen? If not, why did he go underneath the car for 40 seconds when he already knew the boy was dead?
 
Whatever the case, at least Al Sharpton has another set of teats to suck on for sustenance.

Honestly, you're playing up the two classical radical angles here... he was being chased because he was black (I'm pretty sure a white guy running from the cops gets stopped too) and the gun was planted on him (which still doesn't explain why he ran.)
 
Whatever the case, at least Al Sharpton has another set of teats to suck on for sustenance.
So you are more worried about the possible damage to the predominately white "law and order" crowd from possible bad publicity than anything else involving this case?

I'm pretty sure a white guy running from the cops gets stopped too.
Got any examples of a white kid on a bicycle being chased down the sidewalk by a police car, possibly even tased from a moving vehicle, and then run over? Where the cop apparently even lied why he was chasing him in the first place?

and the gun was planted on him (which still doesn't explain why he ran.)
No, it doesn't. It just shows that the cop probably thought his acts were completely unreasonable given the circumstances. Do you think they weren't? Is this an appropriate response to any kid who has apparently not wanted for any serious felony being chased and killed by a cop in such a manner?

Do you think a 2-week suspension is an appropriate punishment for these acts? For exposing the kid "to unreasonable risk of harm and injury" which resulted in his death, much less lying about why he was being chased and not being able to find any credible reason to crawl under his squad car for 40 seconds?
 
I didn't state it was directly caused by the taser. I said it was "related". Do you really think the kid didn't at least hear the taser cycling, which can be clearly heard on the video tapes, and may have possibly caused him to lose his balance, as is clearly pointed out in the article and video in the OP? :lol:
 
I didn't state it was directly caused by the taser. I said it was "related". Do you really think the kid didn't at least hear the taser cycling, which can be clearly heard on the video tapes, and may have possibly caused him to lose his balance, as is clearly pointed out in the article and video in the OP? :lol:

Why didn't you start the thread with "bicycle related death" then?
 
Did you even bother to read the article and watch the videos?

Victor Steen was the fourth person who died in Florida in 2009 in an incident in which a Taser was used.

"When the Taser clicked, the kid swung hard to his left over grass into the parking lot. The bike wobbled and he lost control. I don't know if the Taser hit him or the sound of it scared him. But he went down, and the cop turned into the parking lot and immediately ran over him," said Moore, who called 911.

:lol:
 
This is a pretty clear cut case of murder, taser or not cops aren't allowed to kill kids just because they don't obey the officers every command. Voluntary manslaughter at the very least, the only way to stop these incidents in the future is to actually punish the bad cops.
 
Did you even bother to read the article and watch the videos?





:lol:

Uh, that's not a Taser related death. The kid would just as easioly have died if they'd have thrown a ball at him, or shouted quite loudly.
Try again.
 
Uh, that's not a Taser related death. The kid would just as easioly have died if they'd have thrown a ball at him, or shouted quite loudly.
Try again.

Form....I remind you that noncon is a forensic scientist.

:popcorn:
 
More importantly, does Forma really believe that white criminals have never been chased down by cops for fleeing a scene?

Its broadcasted on TV during daytime television every day. Its called Cops. You are probably the only person who doesn't know about it.

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Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
It's a tragic accident. Tasering someone on a bicycle is probably a bit OTT, but it's clear the kid was breaking the law (by running from the police) and that the policeman was merely trying to stop him for questioning and possible arrest.
 
Form....I remind you that noncon is a forensic scientist.

:popcorn:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with arguing semantics instead of addressing the issues. Do you think it takes a degree in "forensics science" to be able to do that?

The story clearly has to do with tasers. I really don't see how anybody could argue differently given the article in the OP which makes that point quite obvious.

Wait Forma, did this seriously just appear in your paper? Speaking as a local, I haven't heard about it in months, because it happened half a year ago.
That's right. Click on the URL above and see for yourself. It appeared today. The story was also picked up by at least one other paper based on a google search.

You did read the article and saw that it was about the number of recent taser-related incidents which resulted in death in Florida, instead of being a "news" article about an incident it clearly states occurred in October. Right?

But I still think we can discuss it even though the incident occurred almost a year ago. Don't you? Has it been discussed before?

More importantly, does Forma really believe that white criminals have never been chased down by cops for fleeing a scene?
Even more important is how long you can go without making absurd strawmen such as that, also instead of addressing the issues. :)

And what "scene" was this "criminal" fleeing from?

It's a tragic accident. Tasering someone on a bicycle is probably a bit OTT, but it's clear the kid was breaking the law (by running from the police) and that the policeman was merely trying to stop him for questioning and possible arrest.

I think it is far more than a tragic accident. Why is the cop still even employed there after being caught lying about why he was even chasing the boy, much less why he crawled underneath his cruiser and stayed there for 40 seconds?
 
Which has absolutely nothing to do with arguing semantics instead of addressing the issues. Do you think it takes a degree in "forensics science" to be able to do that?

The story clearly has to do with tasers. I really don't see how anybody could argue differently given the article in the OP which makes that point quite obvious.
Uh, you're implying the death is a result of the use of Tasers, which it clearly isn't, there is only causation. Tasers are considered a very safe less-than-lethal alternative, so I'm guessing you're using this to justify your irrational anti-authority bent here.

And I don't quite like the way you've put Forensic Science in quotes. Explain.
 
I think it is far more than a tragic accident. Why is the cop still even employed there after being caught lying about why he was even chasing the boy, much less why he crawled underneath his cruiser and stayed there for 40 seconds?

I don't expect someone to act particularly rationally immediately after causing someone's death.
 
This does seem to have very little to do with tasers. Manslaughter or Death by dangerous driving. Man has no business with a badge or drivers licence.
 
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