Defensive pact musings

[gibbie99]

I am playing a game as Aztecs, and entered a defense pact with the AI Russia. I founda few things that weren't documented, I don't think, and found them to be pretty cool.

1) If you capture a enemy city which used to be your allies, you can revert control of it to the ally.
2) If you enter a war with an enemy, and drag along your allies, you are penalized in diplomacy against the enemy (not like we care, since we are bent on wiping them out anyway)

I think you have rebasing rights at their cities too, but that's not news really.

Anyway more cool stuff about civ, i feel that i learn something new about the game design every time i start up a new game.

 

[Nilrim]

I belive that if you have a Def. pact with an AI and YOU start a war with another AI that the pact is broken. It is only honored if the AI attacks you first.

 

[Meffy]

1) If you capture a enemy city which used to be your allies, you can revert control of it to the ally.

A third choice, along with keep and raze?

 

[Nilrim]

A third choice, along with keep and raze?

Yep I have only seen it in a couple of games. I had a game where England had lost London to the Greeks, later on I had a Def. pact with England and the Greeks attacked again. Well I quickly mauled the greek army and took London. At that point I got 3 options, keep, give back to England or raze.

By the way in that game I decided to give London back, it was a bit far off my cultural borders and at that point in the game I didn't want to manage another city under strife. I won that game with a Diplomatic victory due to England voting for me so it paid off

 

[Meffy]

*applause* Nicely done!

 

[Antiochus]

You don't even need to have a defensive pact to have the option to give back city...i believe the only thing necessary is an "agree to declare war on X", whether it be initiated by either side.

 

[salty]

You definitely don't need a pact, as I've never joined one and gotten the return city to owner option.

 

[Morten Blaabjerg]

Same option appears in multiplayer games, just by having an open border agreement and mutual war against an enemy.