Lain
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While the forum search does yield many results, game knowledge surrounding Deity Isolation seems to be scattered across many threads in bits and pieces. Compared to the more well known strategies à la Cuirs or Cannons it is still somewhat uncharted territory, the shores of which are only known to a few brave travelers.
I have yet to find an in-depth playthrough of a Deity Isolation game (including detailed write-up and documentation with save games). I think even Kossin „avoided“ playing Isolation games in his amazing series, please correct me if I'm wrong. Now I know some veterans on here handle this type of game very confidently, but many players still avoid this type of game or re-roll when they find themselves isolated.
In pursuit of Deity greatness (and my goal of 100 wins in a row, playing random fractal maps) I want to invite every aspiring and ambitious player to this workshop, dedicated to tear down the mask of the Deities' faces and reveal the secrets of Isolation, bestowed upon us by the one and only Sid. My battle cry just now probably woke up some poor neighbors trying to sleep at 5 am, so I hope you are fired up at least.
So I propose following format: I would like to contain all progress (and games) within this thread, so future generations won't have to browse through the dephts of the forum, open LHC threads and click through the pages in a faint hope of a buried Deity savegame somewhere. Instead, I would like to follow the style of this thread: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ-illustrated-1-know-your-enemy.478563/ In the sense that people can click on links in the first post to jump to various games in the thread. Overview shouldn't be lost this way.
We would discuss, play and round up one game at a time. Depending on participation, one such cycle could take a week, or maybe a month. Selection of games can be arranged between the players. When I come across an Isolation game in my random playthroughs, I might suggest it here. So can others. It doesn't have to be my personal thread or anything. There has to be some degree of coordination for this though, we have to avoid playing three different games at the same time and stuff like that. Just send me a PN or something and we figure it out. To that end I would like to lock down the game settings somewhat. For comparison's and learning's sake. This might limit participation somewhat, which is unfortunate, but the discussions would get dragged into too many directions with some people playing huge maps, marathon speed or on other difficulties. The LHC series is meant for that. This is supposed to be different. It's more serious business here (
).
Deity
Fractal
Standard size (6 AIs)
Normal Speed
No Huts
No Events
(Medium Sea Level?)
Everything else random / default basically.
Without further ado, I am going to post a first game in the next post. To learn the most, I suggest following checkpoints. I would be grateful just for a save game of these milestones. Even though a short write-up would be beneficial for the discussion.
Settling Plan
1 AD
Reaching Astro
Launch of first attack
This should paint a clear picture of strategies and their execution. Personally, I am doing fine until Astro, but need way too long to prepare any meaningful invasion. I am talking like 1300 AD cannons here. Now this can't be optimal play, because every Isolation game I play feels like a bossfight of some oldschool Nintendo game where you eventually crush your controller against the wall. Even if I manage to win, I always need a 3-day-vacation after to recover from the mental and physical strains I had to endure in the process. Now, it shouldn't be THAT hard to win this type of game reliably.
So please join me in my endeavor, by participating or chipping in some valuable feedback every now and then.
And now let's go to the Abyss together, shall we.
Chapter 1: Willem van Oranje
Chapter 2: Gandhi
Chapter 3: Boudica
Chapter 4: Hannibal
Chapter 5: Tokugawa
...
...
...
Milestone(s):
Tips from Rusten concerning tech choices and diplo
FAQ (will be updated as seen fit):
Q: Are you drunk?
A: Not yet.
While the forum search does yield many results, game knowledge surrounding Deity Isolation seems to be scattered across many threads in bits and pieces. Compared to the more well known strategies à la Cuirs or Cannons it is still somewhat uncharted territory, the shores of which are only known to a few brave travelers.
I have yet to find an in-depth playthrough of a Deity Isolation game (including detailed write-up and documentation with save games). I think even Kossin „avoided“ playing Isolation games in his amazing series, please correct me if I'm wrong. Now I know some veterans on here handle this type of game very confidently, but many players still avoid this type of game or re-roll when they find themselves isolated.
In pursuit of Deity greatness (and my goal of 100 wins in a row, playing random fractal maps) I want to invite every aspiring and ambitious player to this workshop, dedicated to tear down the mask of the Deities' faces and reveal the secrets of Isolation, bestowed upon us by the one and only Sid. My battle cry just now probably woke up some poor neighbors trying to sleep at 5 am, so I hope you are fired up at least.
So I propose following format: I would like to contain all progress (and games) within this thread, so future generations won't have to browse through the dephts of the forum, open LHC threads and click through the pages in a faint hope of a buried Deity savegame somewhere. Instead, I would like to follow the style of this thread: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ-illustrated-1-know-your-enemy.478563/ In the sense that people can click on links in the first post to jump to various games in the thread. Overview shouldn't be lost this way.
We would discuss, play and round up one game at a time. Depending on participation, one such cycle could take a week, or maybe a month. Selection of games can be arranged between the players. When I come across an Isolation game in my random playthroughs, I might suggest it here. So can others. It doesn't have to be my personal thread or anything. There has to be some degree of coordination for this though, we have to avoid playing three different games at the same time and stuff like that. Just send me a PN or something and we figure it out. To that end I would like to lock down the game settings somewhat. For comparison's and learning's sake. This might limit participation somewhat, which is unfortunate, but the discussions would get dragged into too many directions with some people playing huge maps, marathon speed or on other difficulties. The LHC series is meant for that. This is supposed to be different. It's more serious business here (

Deity
Fractal
Standard size (6 AIs)
Normal Speed
No Huts
No Events
(Medium Sea Level?)
Everything else random / default basically.
Without further ado, I am going to post a first game in the next post. To learn the most, I suggest following checkpoints. I would be grateful just for a save game of these milestones. Even though a short write-up would be beneficial for the discussion.
Settling Plan
1 AD
Reaching Astro
Launch of first attack
This should paint a clear picture of strategies and their execution. Personally, I am doing fine until Astro, but need way too long to prepare any meaningful invasion. I am talking like 1300 AD cannons here. Now this can't be optimal play, because every Isolation game I play feels like a bossfight of some oldschool Nintendo game where you eventually crush your controller against the wall. Even if I manage to win, I always need a 3-day-vacation after to recover from the mental and physical strains I had to endure in the process. Now, it shouldn't be THAT hard to win this type of game reliably.
So please join me in my endeavor, by participating or chipping in some valuable feedback every now and then.
And now let's go to the Abyss together, shall we.
Chapter 1: Willem van Oranje
Chapter 2: Gandhi
Chapter 3: Boudica
Chapter 4: Hannibal
Chapter 5: Tokugawa
...
...
...
Milestone(s):
Tips from Rusten concerning tech choices and diplo
FAQ (will be updated as seen fit):
Q: Are you drunk?
A: Not yet.
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