1. We have added the ability to collapse/expand forum categories and widgets on forum home.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Photobucket has changed its policy concerning hotlinking images and now requires an account with a $399.00 annual fee to allow hotlink. More information is available at: this link.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. All Civ avatars are brought back and available for selection in the Avatar Gallery! There are 945 avatars total.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. To make the site more secure, we have installed SSL certificates and enabled HTTPS for both the main site and forums.
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Civ6 is released! Order now! (Amazon US | Amazon UK | Amazon CA | Amazon DE | Amazon FR)
    Dismiss Notice
  6. Dismiss Notice
  7. Forum account upgrades are available for ad-free browsing.
    Dismiss Notice

Did the Scythians really recruit warrioresses?

Discussion in 'Total War' started by sendos, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. sendos

    sendos Immortal

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,134
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    If you play the Scythians in RTW, you will notice that you are able to train two warrioress units, which are both cavalry units. The requirement to recruit them is a sacred grove to a goddess (forget her name). In the units' details, it says that the Scythians had a custom of recruiting both men and women for war.

    I have read Herodotus last year, which mentions some descriptions of the Scythians when Darius invades Scythia (and fails), but there were no references to Scythian female warriors.

    The reason why I posted this here is because the History Section of Civfantics seems more for actual historic events and that this question is based around a game, not a historical reference.
     
  2. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Messages:
    18,760
    Location:
    British Columbia, Canada
    This thread is the first google result for "scythian warrioresses". Judging from the wikipedia article its possible they did. However, thats wikipedia :p
     
  3. flyingchicken

    flyingchicken 99 117 110 116 115

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    5,348
    Did the Romans use companies of trained war dogs?
     
  4. ArguCa

    ArguCa Chieftain

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Messages:
    376
    Sarmatians did and I think Scythians did too
     
  5. PhilBowles

    PhilBowles Chieftain

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    4,120
    There's a single known grave of a Scythian woman thought to be a warrior, and this is probably the best-known example of Scythian archaeology in popular culture. So while they probably didn't use female cavalry to any degree, it makes some sense for the game to use that as its basis for a Scythian unit. If people recognised the Scythians at all, that would be what springs to mind as making them distinct from, say, the Huns.

    Then again, there were no such things as battlefield ninja, warrior nuns or bulletproof samurai in feudal Japan either... Total War departs from realism rather more than I'd like.
     
  6. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Messages:
    18,760
    Location:
    British Columbia, Canada
    In one of the interviews with CA for Rome 2 they admitted they made up several of those units based on pretty sketchy "evidence" because it seemed like something that was possible for that faction and thought it would be cool. Like the Iberian Bull Warriors. They also "promised" they wouldn't be doing that in Rome 2.
     
  7. PhilBowles

    PhilBowles Chieftain

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    4,120
    I haven't played much of Rome - Iberian Bull Warriors? And I almost gave up on Shogun 2 after Warrior Nuns, geisha assassins, battlefield ninja and Bulletproof Samurai...

    To some extent there may be an excuse with Rome - most cultures of that period aren't particularly well-known (virtually nothing is known about the Scythians) so there has to be some extrapolation, particularly with player demand for variety in unit types and unique units for each faction. But it crosses a line that really breaks immersion when it gets into fantasy stuff.
     
  8. GoodGame

    GoodGame Red, White, & Blue, baby!

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2004
    Messages:
    13,725
    Roman war dogs are totally believable. 1000 dog armies----I don't think so.
     
  9. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,876
    Location:
    Berkeley, CA
    Don't forget the Britannian head-hurlers or the Germanic wailing axe-women
     
  10. Princeps

    Princeps More bombs than God

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    5,264
    according to the greeks schytian women did some times go to war.
     

Share This Page