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Diplomacy 6 Game Thread 1

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  1. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Diplomacy 6: Ancient Mediterranean
    Game Thread 1


    Players:
    • Izipo - Carthage
    • Stuck in Pi - Rome
    • Renata - Egypt
    • Kulko - Persia
    • Tasselhoff - Greece

    Index Page

    Orders Due By: Sept. 4th 9:00 AM (GMT +5?) 72 hours from this post.

    NOTE Cyprus: Cyprus is supposed to have a supply center on it and the map is currently being modified to show that.

    Spoiler Variant Rules :
    You can read the basic rules in "The Rules of Warfare".

    Note that on the map, home supply centers are designated by a plain dot, whereas supply centers which start the game unowned, are designated by a dot with a circle around it. As in the normal rules, a power may build new units only in its home supply centers.

    Victory Criteria

    18 supply centers. This is a simple majority (it's just coincidence that Ancient Med has the same number of supply centers as the standard game).

    Move Dates and Adjustments

    Each turn alternates between Spring and Fall, starting the game on a Spring turn, with adjustments being made after a Fall turn. Each successive Spring the year increases by one. This is just like the standard game except the variant’s first year is 01 AD instead of 1901 AD.

    Impassable Spaces

    Any areas that are not named on the board are not passable. The Atlantic Ocean can not be occupied by any units.

    Islands

    Islands are distinct spaces. An island may be occupied by an army or a fleet. Each island has one continuous coast, therefore a fleet on an island may move to any space adjacent to it. For example, a fleet could move from the Egyptian Sea to Crete in one turn, and then move to the Aegean Sea in the next turn.

    Movement Across Narrow Straits

    Arrows on the board indicate two adjacent land (coastal) spaces. An army may move from one space to the other in one turn without being convoyed. Because they are adjacent, fleets may also move from one space to the other in one turn. Note that the Tyrrhenean Sea is adjacent to the Ausonian Sea.

    Byzantium

    Byzantium is one space which straddles a waterway. The waterway allows movement of a fleet in Byzantium to any adjacent coastal space or sea space. The waterway does not impede the movement of an army through Byzantium. And it is a supply center. In other words, it works just like Constantinople in the standard game.

    Baleares

    Baleares is a single space (which consists of the islands and the water around them). Since it contains both land and water, it can be occupied by a fleet or an army. However, since it is a single space, it can only be occupied by one unit at a time. Although an army can occupy Baleares, it can not move there directly from the mainland spaces since the islands are too far from the coast. For an army to enter or leave Baleares, it would have to be convoyed by a fleet in the Berber Sea or the Ligurian Sea. Since Baleares consists mostly of water, it is considered a sea space for the purposes of convoys, therefore a fleet occupying Baleares may be used to convoy an army using the normal convoy rules. Baleares is a supply center.

    Four-way Intersection in the High Seas

    In the middle of the board there is an area where four sea spaces come together at one point. They are the Ausonian Sea, Messenian Sea, Gulf of Tacape and Libyan Sea. All four of these spaces are adjacent to each of the other three at that point. Therefore, a fleet in one of these spaces may move to any of the other three. In other words, a fleet in any of these spaces may move diagonally.

    By virtue of the expanse of the open seas, fleets can pass each other in a criss-cross fashion without impeding each others' movement. For example, a Roman fleet could move from the Ausonian Sea to the Libyan Sea and a Greek fleet could move from the Messenian Sea to the Gulf of Tacape on the same turn and both of these moves would be allowed. Note that this criss-crossing is not the same as two units exchanging places. For example, if a Roman fleet tried to move from the Ausonian Sea to the Libyan Sea and an Egyptian fleet tried to move from the Libyan Sea to the Ausonian Sea on the same turn, these moves would not be allowed due to the normal rules.

    The Diolkos

    The border between Sparta and Athens effectively works like a canal. It cuts across the isthmus and allows fleets to move through. For example, a fleet in the Aegean Sea could move to Athens and then, on the following turn, to the Ionian Sea. Note that in game terms, this means Athens effectively has one continuous coast. Armies can freely move between Sparta and Athens.

    The Nile River and Canal

    The Nile River acts as the boundary between the spaces on its east and west banks. The river is not a space on the board. It can not be occupied by any units. However, it is considered to be navigable. Therefore, a fleet may move to and from spaces that are adjacent along the river. For example, Sinai to Thebes, Thebes to Memphis, Memphis to Alexandria would all be legal moves for a fleet. Memphis to Cyrene would not be a legal move for a fleet. Egypt can build fleets in any of its home supply centers.

    There is also a canal that connects the Nile River Delta to the Reed Sea. It acts as the boundary between Sinai and Thebes. It is also navigable and therefore allows fleet movement between Sinai, Thebes and Reed Sea. Reed Sea is not adjacent to the Gulf of Pelusium or Alexandria. Notice that due to the various waterways and coastlines, Sinai and Thebes each have one continuous coast.

    Armies can freely move across the Nile River and canal.

    The Nile River Delta

    The Nile Delta is not a distinct space on the board. It can not be occupied by any units. There are four spaces which are in contact with the delta. They are Alexandria, Thebes, Sinai and the Gulf of Pelusium. All four of these spaces are considered to be adjacent to each of the other three, at all times, by virtue of the multiple water channels in the delta. This provides increased flexibility concerning the movement of fleets. A fleet in any of these four spaces may move to any of the other three. The delta does not impede the movement of armies. An army in any of the three land spaces in contact with the delta, may move to either of the other two.

    The key to remember is that Thebes is always adjacent to the Gulf of Pelusium AND Alexandria is always adjacent to Sinai (in addition to the obvious adjacancies). For example, a fleet could move from Thebes to the Gulf of Pelusium and, on the same turn, an army or a fleet, could move from Alexandria to Sinai. It should be noted that this criss-crossing is not the same as two units exchanging places which is not allowed.

    Convoy Clarifications

    As in the normal rules, no fleet in a land space can convoy armies. This includes any coastal space, island, Byzantium and land spaces adjacent to the Nile River or the delta. Baleares is considered primarily a sea space for the purposes of convoys, therefore a fleet occupying it may be used to convoy an army using the normal convoy rules.

    Abbreviations for Ancient Med Names

    For almost every space on the board, the first three letters of the name are used for its abbreviation. This includes spaces which have two words in the name. So the Egyptian Sea is "Egy" and the Cilician Strait is "Cil". None of the letters in the words "sea" or "strait" are used. However, names that have three words in them use the first letter of each of the three words. So the Gulf of Pelusium is "GoP". There are only a few exceptions to these guidelines due to redundancies. The following is a complete list of the exceptions to the "use the first three letters" rule.

    Gulf of Pelusium = GoP
    Gulf of Syrtis = GoS
    Gulf of Tacape = GoT
    Sardinia = Sad
    Sarmatia = Sam
    Sinai = Sii
    Sinope = Sip
    Tyre = Tye
    Tyrrhenean Sea = Tyn




     
  2. Renata

    Renata homicidal jungle cat GOTM Staff

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    From Egypt
    To Carthage: Leptis is such a desert, surely you don't want to bother with it. Also, those elephants? Style plus five! I think I like you.

    From Egypt
    To Persia: I know you're out for my blood, Xerxie-poo, but really -- you stay on your side of Jerusalem and I'll stay on mine, and all will be well. Kiss-kiss, darling.

    From Egypt
    To Greece: Movement onto Crete will be promptly repaid by boats-full of slaves playing Yanni songs! (We lose more slaves that way ...)

    From Egypt
    To Rome: That story about me and that general of yours? Mere slander, I say we should forget it. We're natural allies, sweetheart. Do drop me a line.

    Sincerely, Princess CleoRenata, Ruler of the Nile.

    *wanders off humming "I Love Being a Princess" from the Backyardigans*

    (PS: None of the above to be taken too seriously, all is negotiable. Talk to me, OK?)
     
  3. Kulko

    Kulko Innocent Bystander

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    Xerxes looked at the map his aides had drawn in the sand before him and was pleased.
    The great Persian Empire once again covered all the land within its natural limits. In the south it was capped by the nile and the nubian desert. and in the east the aegeis and the black sea run there waves against the cities of Milet and Illium(Byzanz).

    Of course a few battles would have to be fought until, then, but he could see it all before him. His Grandfather, Xerxer I. would be so proud of him.
     
  4. Izipo

    Izipo Hardcore casual gamer

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    From Carthage
    To Egypt
    Re : Leptis

    Surely, you jest ? I heard olives can be grown here. Maybe you'll need some to build another of your big, blocky, pointy things of stone ?
     
  5. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I'd like to thank Niklas for fixing the map so that now Cyprus shows as having a SC. The starting map in the OP has been replaced with the corrected map that Niklas fixed. Thanks!

    This is a remind that there is only 24 hours left until the update. The following still need to turn in their orders.

    Need Orders From (everyone!):
    • Izipo
    • Stuck in Pi
    • Renata
    • Kulko
    • Tasselhoff
     
  6. Izipo

    Izipo Hardcore casual gamer

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    Note to all, please consider that the swords you see in the fuzzy area that is named Carthage are elephants of course. ;)

    Also, orders are ready.

    EDIT : And Hi to the guys from thread 2.
     
  7. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    The update will be a little late unfortunately. Whoever created this map didn't do a very good job. One of the sea territories is showing as landlocked :rolleyes:. I'm working on getting that fixed and as soon as either Niklas can fix it, or I can figure out how, then I'll post the update. Sorry folks.
     
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    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I've fixed that problem, only to come upon another and its one I'm having trouble figuring out. I'm still working on it though.
     
  9. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Rather then hold the game up, I've decided to go ahead and post the update even though the update doesn't show the actions of Thebes. For some reason my adjucator won't accept any actions in Thebes.

    NOTE: Egypt: The army in The moved to Sii.

    Orders:
    Carthage: F tha -> pun
    Carthage: A cir -> num
    Carthage: A car Holds
    Egypt: A mem -> cyr
    Egypt: F ale -> gop
    Egypt: A thb -> sii
    Greece: F spa -> aeg
    Greece: A mac -> ill
    Greece: A ath -> mac
    Persia: F sid -> syr
    Persia: A dam -> arm
    Persia: A ant -> sid
    Rome: A rom -> nea
    Rome: A rav -> etr
    Rome: F nea -> tyn

    1 AD Spring Movement




    1 AD Spring Orders Resolved



    1 AD Spring Influence


    Next Orders Due By:

    72 hours (from this post) or Sept 7th @ 10:50 AM (GMT +5)
     
  10. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    The map is now fixed and currently shows the actions of Thebes. Please note that now Thebes short name is "thb" (before it was "the"). Also, when you send in your orders it would be nice if you stated your plans, manipulations, etc. in them. You don't have to, but it would be nice to read.
     
  11. Renata

    Renata homicidal jungle cat GOTM Staff

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    Oh, well that is very simple, dear Methos. First I kill somebody, then I kill somebody else, then I kill somebody else, then I win!
     
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    Renata homicidal jungle cat GOTM Staff

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    Oh, and I won't really be around (and almost certainly not on MSN) before the next update, so if anyone wants me to do something or not do something based on where my armies/fleet are now, please PM me about it as soon as possible so I can be sure to see it in time to send in my orders.
     
  13. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Update in 24 hours. I need orders from:
    • Izipo
    • Stuck in Pi
    • Renata
    • Tasselhoff
     
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    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Call it boredom, but I created a simple index page for all of the screenshots. I figured it would be easier to find them. You can find the page here.
     
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    Niklas Fully Functional GOTM Staff

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    Interesting to see the different tactics employed in the different threads already in the first update. :)
     
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    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    The update will have to be pushed back. I'm still missing orders from:
    • Izipo
    • Tasselhoff
     
  17. Izipo

    Izipo Hardcore casual gamer

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    Sorry about that. They're coming momentarily.
    I honestly thought I had until tomorrow.
     
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    Tasslehoff Kender

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    Yeah, I'm sorry too. I slept in >.<
     
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    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Sorry. At the time you all sent me your orders my wife was on the desktop, so I decided to try and get it all installed on my Mac. Hehe, not too long after I started she got off the computer, but by that time I had to figure this out. At least now I have everything needed to run it on this computer and I now know how to take screenshots! Man, screenshots are sweet on a Mac.

    Orders:
    persia: a arm - che
    persia: a sid - tye
    persia: f syr - cyp
    egypt: a cyr - lep
    egypt: a sii - pet
    egypt: f gop - jer
    rome: f tyn - sad
    rome: a nea - sic
    rome: a etr - mas
    greece: a ill - vin
    greece: a mac - byz
    greece: f aeg - mil
    carthage: a num - lep
    carthage: f pun c a car - sad
    carthage: a car - sad

    Fall 1 AD Movement




    Fall 1 AD Results



    Fall 1 AD




    Fall 1 AD Influence




    Orders Due:

    Sept. 10th @ 3 pm (GMT -6)

    For these orders I need you to send me your build choices. You can only build in your home supply centers and not at other supply centers.

    Needed Builds:
    Carthage: 1
    Egypt: 3
    Greece: 3
    Persia: 3
    Rome: 2
     
  20. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Odd. The screenshots from my mac were uploaded as files rather then pics, so I had to move back over to the desktop and redo it. :hmm:
     

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