Disgusting Culture of Conspiracists

[TomYo689]

No portals into new dimensions but I did lose some money on the stock market on the apocalypse day. The ancient Mayans and Chinese had it timed perfectly. KONSPERASY

 

[Borachio]

Obligatory Alan Moore.


Link to video.

I'm inclined to agree that no one is in control and that the world as a whole is rudderless.

That doesn't mean that there aren't people attempting to control it (via "legitimate" government, overtly and covertly) or attempting to subvert things for their own ends (conspiracies).

And why does he say if you're on a CIA list you're OK, but if your name is similar to one on a CIA list you're dead?

 

[Traitorfish]

There's a few stories of the CIA abducting innocent people because they confused them from somebody with a similar name (and usually a few other biographical details).

 

[Oruc]

Obligatory Alan Moore.


Link to video.

I don't think conspiracy theorists actually believe in one group controlling the world, I'm pretty sure they beliefs are more in line with the tripping each other up part he said.

 

[Borachio]

There's a few stories of the CIA abducting innocent people because they confused them from somebody with a similar name (and usually a few other biographical details).

I can understand that. But why does he maintain that if you're actually on a list you're perfectly safe?

Or is there a guarantee of 100% incompetence from the CIA? In which case, you'd be just as likely to be abducted by them making a mistake and thinking you weren't on the list - when you were - if you see what I mean.

 

[Leoreth]

I try to avoid bringing up old posts, but I can't resist:

Neomega in 2004:

[Ridiculous Maya prophecy woo]

I'll trust the evil government on this one, thanks.

Hahahaha, thanks to you and the archives for giving us this gem

 

[strijder20]

I can understand that. But why does he maintain that if you're actually on a list you're perfectly safe?

Or is there a guarantee of 100% incompetence from the CIA? In which case, you'd be just as likely to be abducted by them making a mistake and thinking you weren't on the list - when you were - if you see what I mean.

No, he's just using a wordplay. Of course they also pick up people who are actually on their list.

... I hope

 

[Gucumatz]

Here is the link for the Anersoon Cooper segment

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/11/kth-exposing-newtown-conspiracy-theory/

 

[Borachio]

Is the man looking to get himself fired from his job?

Or is he a paranoid schizophrenic?

Or maybe these conspiracy people are simply attention-seeking? In much the same way as the shooters are as well.

Anyway, Cooper goes on to cite "crisis actors" and seems to question whether there really are any. Such people surely do exist. When risk assessment people (or whatever you call 'em) do their crisis management plans they very often use actors to give their scenarios a realistic feel.

 

[classical_hero]

I tell you that the OP is a conspiracy unto itself.

 

[Disgustipated]

There are conspiracy theories for everything - most of them disturbing, disrespectful, illogical, and at best "fantastical". Conspiracists are everywhere but they distort the truth and have thrived in the internet underground.

A Professor at Florida Atlantic University, tenured no less, and a professor in the school of communications has argued that the Newtown shooting was nothing more than a hoax designed for liberals to take away peoples guns.

He is not the only one - but these idiots continue to lower a basic kindness and morality for Americans everywhere. Anderson Cooper had a great segment on this conspiracist culture - And I think its about time people stood up against these people. Its not cool to degrade everything and everyone to nothing more than "hoaxes"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/0...ons-newtown-shooting-massacre-calls-for-more/

What this guy is doing is no difference than trolling an internet forum. What's funny is the liberals who think he's serious. Although I must say it's in very bad taste to troll kids being killed. Aholes like this guy won't be satisfied unless the police show images of the dead and bloodied children. He's a sick, twisted person, but I'm certain he's not serious.

 

[Neomega]

Meh, just a kid.

Hahahaha, thanks to you and the archives for giving us this gem

Not really worried about it, honestly.

 

[Leoreth]

Not really worried about it, honestly.

Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of my laughter.

 

[Neomega]

Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of my laughter.

If you could go ahead and post the whole thing, that would be cool. Because nothing I said in it was definite. I just posted some things I thought it might be, and called it "psuedo-scientific".

 

[Neomega]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60874

Here is a link to the 2012 thread. It is an intersting discussion. And to quote myself from it:

BTW, I have no real predictions for the year 2012, and plan to live my life as if nothing is going to happen or change.

 

[Gucumatz]

What this guy is doing is no difference than trolling an internet forum. What's funny is the liberals who think he's serious. Although I must say it's in very bad taste to troll kids being killed. Aholes like this guy won't be satisfied unless the police show images of the dead and bloodied children. He's a sick, twisted person, but I'm certain he's not serious.

Possible. But the fact remains there are so many conspiracists out there that continue to act disgraceful. If its not this - its JFK, or the moon, "truthers", etc. There comes a point though where "trolling or pranking" oversteps its bounds and demands apology or larger reflection.

 

[Gucumatz]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60874

Here is a link to the 2012 thread. It is an intersting discussion. And to quote myself from it:

Nothing harmful in having a joke about 2012. But - Really, as a half Maya I did hope I would never have to hear about stupid conspiracies from people who don't know the littlest bit about my ancestors after last year again.

 

[Neomega]

"truthers".

Like Bob Mcllvaine who lost his son on 9-11?

John Fealgood, who questioned the EPA reports that the air was safe to breath in three days? (9/11 first responders finally got a settlement because of his works, though people like you would want them to shut up)

Like Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza? Who Anne Coulter said "I'd never seen four women enjoy their husband's deaths so much?

I know another one, how about the entire crew that is alive today after the attack on the USS Liberty. Should they shut up too?

oversteps its bounds and demands apology or larger reflection.

Try demanding an apology from Bob McIlvaine first.


Maybe you need to do some reflecting.

Can we not question war propaganda because soldiers are dying?

Standing on the graves of others to silence people? Is that honorable?

 

[Gucumatz]

Like Bob Mcllvaine who lost his son on 9-11?

John Fealgood, who questioned the EPA reports that the air was safe to breath in three days? (9/11 first responders finally got a settlement because of his works, though people like you would want them to shut up)

Like Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza? Who Anne Coulter said "I'd never seen four women enjoy their husband's deaths so much?

I know another one, how about the entire crew that is alive today after the attack on the USS Liberty. Should they shut up too?



Try demanding an apology from Bob McIlvaine first.


Maybe you need to do some reflecting.

Can we not question war propaganda because soldiers are dying?

Standing on the graves of others to silence people? Is that honorable?

Are you seriously stating that the EPA incident is anything similar to a conspiracy coverup? A man who is looking for solace for the death of his son blaming the government is one thing - but it doesn't make it any more true, any more legitimate, or anymore fair to the rest of the families who suffered. A mistaken attack is one thing (USS Liberty) - But orchestrate a wider conspiracy for political purposes is something so outrageous and ridiculous to claim that without any evidence it is insulting any way you cut it.

You can question the truth - You can seek evidence for it. But in no way can you claim without any standard of evidence a distortion of reality and charges of "conspiracy" so extreme and so disregarding for both human nature and the sacredness of lives perished.

 

[Neomega]

Are you seriously stating that the EPA incident is anything similar to a conspiracy coverup?

Yes, I am. If you had been following it all these years like I had, instead of coming out with your indignation just now, you would know how much of a cover-up, and how much work was required to get the EPA to admit they lied, and knew they were lying. Not to mention how much the city of New York refused to take responsibility for the skyrocketing health problems of the first responders.

And John Fealgood was and is actually helping his sick first-responder brothers in person, not making flowery speeches on the internet like some cheap politician.

A man who is looking for solace for the death of his son blaming the government is one thing - but it doesn't make it any more true, any more legitimate, or anymore fair to the rest of the families who suffered.

What makes you think you can speak for the rest of the families?

A mistaken attack is one thing (USS Liberty) - But orchestrate a wider conspiracy for political purposes is something so outrageous and ridiculous to claim that without any evidence it is insulting any way you cut it.

Your worldview is insulted.

You can question the truth - You can seek evidence for it. But in no way can you claim without any standard of evidence a distortion of reality and charges of "conspiracy" so extreme and so disregarding for both human nature and the sacredness of lives perished.

Now you aren't just standing on their graves, you are grandstanding on them.