Disgusting Culture of Conspiracists

[Gucumatz]

Yes, I am. If you had been following it all these years like I had, instead of coming out with your indignation just now, you would know how much of a cover-up, and how much work was required to get the EPA to admit they lied, and knew they were lying.



What makes you think you can speak for the rest of the families?



Your worldview is insulted.

My worldview is practical. These things happen - and they happen according to real world realities - question all you wish, but if you can't accept the basic premises on the ground without some level of respect - you won't have any respect for anything

Which explains why various families have come out against you truthers and have called you all a disgrace. While on the other hand - There was a ground of serious evidence and precedent to back against what the EPA was saying. The EPA hid the truth and while admittedly I am not too familiar with the case - it is still nothing comparable to it.

 

[Neomega]

My worldview is practical. These things happen - and they happen according to real world realities - question all you wish, but if you can't accept the basic premises on the ground without some level of respect - you won't have any respect for anything

Conspiracies, false flags, and cover-ups happen too.

Which explains why various families have come out against you truthers and have called you all a disgrace.

Which various families? Entire families?
Still, who appointed you to be their spokesman? Because you can string together pretty words to emote utter shame and displeasure, like an 18th century aristocrat? Are you having fun?

While on the other hand - There was a ground of serious evidence and precedent to back against what the EPA was saying. The EPA hid the truth and while admittedly I am not too familiar with the case - it is still nothing comparable to it.

Of course you aren't. But you sure do like to hear yourself talk.

There was a ground of serious evidence and precedent to back against what the EPA was saying.

Everything you have been writing has been a series of charged words that suggest you have knowledge, but you have none. Your words are full of bluff. I can tell you really aren't insulted for the families, you just like to make flowery speeches.

"so extreme and so disregarding for both human nature and the sacredness of lives perished."

Yes, words are so terrible. It's almost like "truthers" are flying planes into buildings themselves, huh?

"ground of serious evidence and precedent"

Did you pull that out of 101 tricks to make your legal case sound stronger, 1978 edition?

I bet you are mad wiki-ing the EPA case right now, aren't you?

I'm done with you.

 

[Gucumatz]

Which various families? Entire families?
Still, who appointed you to be their spokesman? Because you can string together pretty words to emote utter shame and displeasure, like an 18th century aristocrat? Are you having fun?

The Wolfs, the Aronsons, the Ouidas, and the Stouts are just a couple. And thats not even including those who have written letters anonymously to the various media stations asking that they not give credence to these conspiracists.

Am I their spokesperson - Of course not, but it is disrespectful - no matter how you cut it.

 

[Neomega]

Possible. But the fact remains there are so many conspiracists out there that continue to act disgraceful. If its not this - its JFK,...

Unfortunately for you, a family member has talked about this just today. So again, I don't think they need you to tell them how disgusting and disrespectful they are, do they? They can speak for themselves, can't they?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...nce-that-jfk-wasnt-killed-by-lone-gunman?lite


By Jamie Stengle, The Associated Press

DALLAS -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is convinced that a lone gunman wasn't solely responsible for the assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, and said his father believed the Warren Commission report was a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship."



I hope you are done grandstanding on graves. I think you just got burned on JFK's eternal flame.

 

[Gucumatz]

"ground of serious evidence and precedent"

Did you pull that out of 101 tricks to make your legal case sound stronger, 1978 edition?

I bet you are mad wiki-ing the EPA case right now, aren't you?

And I am not googling the EPA case right now - I am watching the SF - Green Bay game at the moment. But if you wish to enlighten me, go ahead. You can still in no way honestly compare it though to a greater government conspiracy to orchestrate wholesale murder of innocent Americans and use it to justify Truthers or these Newtown conspiracists.
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But honestly - There was precedent with building collapses and subsequent illnesses such as cancer. You can try and shine up something completely different to what we are discussing and present it as the same thing - but it isn't.

 

[Gucumatz]

Unfortunately for you, a family member has talked about this just today. So again, I don't think they need you to tell them how disgusting and disrespectful they are, do they? They can speak for themselves, can't they?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...nce-that-jfk-wasnt-killed-by-lone-gunman?lite


By Jamie Stengle, The Associated Press

DALLAS -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is convinced that a lone gunman wasn't solely responsible for the assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, and said his father believed the Warren Commission report was a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship."



I hope you are done grandstanding on graves. I think you just got burned on JFK's eternal flame.

Because clearly the one defending truthers, Ann Coulter, etc. is the one defending the graves of these folks. [And if I am dancing on their graves, so be it - Although I would deny that, but seems I would be called out as part of a conspiracy here - I am against this culture of Conspiracy. And I think its a destructive harmful force here that only weakens society as a whole]

The Warren commission sadly has been attacked from every which way. LBJ - RFK relations soured even more post the assasination and along with it RFK's trust for the Warren commission. RFK had never liked LBJ, not since LBJ's treatment of his father. There are points when people do overstep their bounds with JFK conspiracies and disrespect the dead. There are multiple conspiracies - some accusing innocents of being responsible for murder of JFK - Yes of course there are conspiracies that overstep their bounds. Its ironic too considering how much the Warren Comission was respected that this culture has brought it down.
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But in regards to the EPA - Honestly though, please tell me more. I think its silly to claim its anywhere on the level of government murdering its own citizens but if you are informed and have factual evidence I am willing to learn something new behind it. Still doesn't change the fact that this Conspiracist culture degrades and damages American Society.

 

[TomYo689]

What's the whole evil plot behind the john f kennedy shooting conspiracy theories? If Obama got shot we would all assume it was just some racist guy.

 

[Neomega]

What's the whole evil plot behind the john f kennedy shooting conspiracy theories? If Obama got shot we would all assume it was just some racist guy.

You would assume it was whoever the government told you it was.

 

[Gucumatz]

You would assume it was whoever the government told you it was.

So we are back to the point... Neomega this isn't V for Vendetta or 1984.

 

[TomYo689]

So none of these are even "theories" it's just an anti government phrase?

 

[Neomega]

So none of these are even "theories" it's just an anti government phrase?

What do you base your belief that Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011, on?

 

[TomYo689]

Well that sounds like a yes to my question. How well constructed that response is, might be just a clear as saying "yes, you're right"

But what makes you believe he ever even existed? There was no Osama

 

[woody60707]

Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

 

[Neomega]

Well that sounds like a yes to my question. How well constructed that response is, might be just a clear as saying "yes, you're right"

But what makes you believe he ever even existed? There was no Osama

Yes. Almost all conspiracy theories stem from mistrust of the government. That is not a hard question to answer.

Now answer the question:

What do you base your belief that Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011, on?

 

[TomYo689]

I believe Osama is a character played by actor Nicolas Cage in a few short adult enterainment films which were funded and directed by George W Bush in the basement of the whitehouse

 

[Neomega]

I believe Osama is a character played by actor Nicolas Cage in a few short adult enterainment films which were funded and directed by George W Bush in the basement of the whitehouse

Don't lie.

Answer the question:

What do you base your belief that Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011, on?

 

[TomYo689]

The newly elected president had no desire for erotic Arabic display but the American public demaded moar so he was forced to make a press release announcing the characters death

 

[Gatsby]

My favorite right now?

Governement: Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011
Media: gotcha, killed May 2, 2011.
Crazy conspiracy theorist: Uh, any proof of that?
government: Nope. Classified.
Media: Yeah, Classified, duh!
Crazy conspiracy theorist: So all we got is the word of a lying government that they killed him on May 2, 2011?
Media: Uh, yah... ....that should be enough! uh, Duh!
Crazy Conspiracy theorist: you could parade Gadaffi and Saddam's gruesome death photos around for the world to see, but with Osama Bin Laden, this one is sacred?
Government: Yup.
Crazy Conspiracy theorist: And nobody on the carl vinson saw him?
Government: Nope
Crazy Conspiracy theorist: No DNA evidence, no evidence at all
Government: Just our word
Crazy Conspiracy theorist: wow, that isn't very convincing


American drone-brains: OMG!!! You want evidence? Crazy conspiracy theorist. You need to learn to believe everything your government tells you! You don't need evidence. You don't need pictures, verification, or testimony! Just listen to your government.

By the way, here is a Hollywod production that will fill in the details of the general American public's mind of what happened, so fiction will become fact. Enjoy..... ZERO DARK THIRTY! Now with TWICE THE FIREBALLS!

Hope that answers your questions!



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It's just pathetic when a nation's mind is so controlled that it will accept the biggest bad guy in the world sold to them is dead without a single shred of evidence.

A thousand times this! Who decides when a conspiracy theory is a conspiracy theory anyway? How blatantly flimsy and inconsistent does an official story have to be before you can dispute it - or even just question it - without being labelled as a conspiracy theorist?

Some conspiracy theories are off the wall. Alot of conspiracy theories both originate from and are contaminated by poor thinking skills, bad data and emotional/ideological bias. But some conspiracy theories do have elements of validity, and the underlying motivations of many conspiracy theorists - i.e. to seek and find the truth for themselves and keep the powerful in check - are admirable. I think it is important to draw a distinction between conspiracy theories which are created with an ulterior motive in mind, and conspiracy theories which result from a sincere desire uncover the truth regardless of ideological considerations.

 

[Neomega]

The newly elected president had no desire for erotic Arabic display but the American public demaded moar so he was forced to make a press release announcing the characters death

You're not funny.

Answer the question:

What do you base your belief that Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011, on?

 

[Kaitzilla]

You're not funny.

Answer the question:

What do you base your belief that Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011, on?

If it could be proved he was still alive, it would be even more egg on the face of Uncle Sam than when Iraq didn't have WMD's.

Thus, lying about killing Bin Laden is riskier than never claiming you got him.



The same logic can be applied to why the U.S. didn't simply plant some WMD's on Iraq, since we have so very many. Wouldn't have been hard to do at all. Well, the nukes have various signatures that tell you where the uranium came from, but I mean chemical or biological weapons.