Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Eagle Pursuit, Jul 25, 2017.
Thank you, now all I have to do is wait and avoid the Youtube comment section at all costs.
Remember, the first First Look is only tomorrow if the release day is the 17th. The 19th seems slightly more likely, as it's close to the anniversary which places the first First Look on Thursday.
I assume Borobudur and Angkor Wat are givens - I don't know what other wonder contenders would be, and they haven't been straying that much with the wonders.
Borobudur will probably do something religious oriented again.
Angkor Wat, who knows. It had pretty dramatic differences in abilities (and usefulness) in 4 and 5. Maybe they'll take a hint from 4 - and the complaints about specialists - and be a boost to specialists?
It could always be a natural wonder too, we could see the return of Krakatoa.
Sure, but that's just being pedantic. Mesoamericans are native North Americans in the same sense that Arabs are Asian: technically true but not usually what people mean either by Asian or Native American. And while the ancestors of the Aztecs are indeed from north of the Rio Grande (where they still have distant relatives, like the Hopi and the O'odham), culturally Mesoamerica has stronger ties to South America than North. So while Firaxis could say that Native North America is represented without lying, they could also say that Southeast Asia is already represented by China (which has controlled Vietnam for much of its history): "technically true" doesn't mean it's a satisfactory answer. (Don't get me wrong: I want the Inca or another South American civ back, too; I just don't think the presence of the Aztecs makes them any higher priority than a Native American civ.)
Okay, speculation time:
Khmer UA: Cities gain additional housing from Fresh Water
Jayavarman VII LUA: Divine Architect: Holy Sites with all buildings generate Production equal to their Faith
UInfrastructure: Baray: (building) replaces Granary, produces +1 additional food over a normal Granary and +2 Faith
UU: Ballista Elephant: (Medieval Siege class) no replace, 3 movement, upgrades to Bombard
alternative Baray: (district) replaces Aqueduct, +4 Food, +1 Faith for each adjacent district
Indonesia UA: Spice Islands: Commercial Hubs, Campuses, and Holy Sites have a +1 yield adjacency bonus from adjacent luxuries, Trade Routes to city-states provide Envoy points each turn
Gitarja LUA: Elephant General: Melee victories produce +5 Great General points, Naval victories provide +5 Great Admiral points
UInfrastructure: Candi (improvement) Medieval era, place in Rainforests, +2 Culture and Faith, cannot be adjacent to other Candi
UU: Djong: replaces Quadrireme, can cross oceans
This is the forum for VI.
Oh crap, this sounds awesome. I was hoping I could skip buying one of the DLCs!
Those who purchased the DDE are getting a real treat as an apology.
Nubia, Khmer, and Indonesia should be enough to make disgruntled DDE owners satisfied.
From what I can gather, Indonesia (Majapahit Empire) used a red-and-white nine horizontally striped flag (similar to the United States' flag, but without the blue field and stars in the canton), while the Khmer used a gold pennant with a light green trim.
This is just trivia while we wait : )
That must explain why Malaysia's flag looks so similar to the American flag (only what's in the canton is different (and a few other minor differences)).
To re-phrase my dear @Zaarin when Nubia came out, I have to admit I made a little squeak when I read the Khmer were very probably going to be in, especially under Jayavarman VII, who was probably the best choice for them (far better than Suryavarman II). I was truly disappointed they were not included in Civ V, since I felt they were probably the most influential civ in SE Asia Mainland culturally (but my point of view may be biased by the fact that I've studied the Khmer, A LOT). For his looks, since it's Jayavarman VII, expect his outfit to look like Ramkhamhaeng's one. Here's another statue of him :
Good thing is this will start to fill the big empty SEA section of my map
That's actually a very mean thing to say, and very XIXth century ... Although I'd love to see Portugal and the Netherlands, a civ is not relevant just because it's in Europe or modern. For instance, the Maya, whose culture heavily influenced all of Mesoamerica kingdoms, including the Aztec. Just because they did not influence europeans doesn't mean they're not relevant : the Khmer were a extremely relevant in SE Asia, the Maya in Mesoamerica, and so on.
You look like the positivist historians, all about national histories and did not care or little about cultural exchanges and the influences of some cultures over others, and who claim we can only make history on written documents (with Europe being the peak of civilization, who extracts others from barbarism) ...
I'm pretty sure he was just joking...
nah bruh. Malaysia flag looks like that since it borrows designs elements from British's East India Company flag, maybe to reflect is colonial history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Malaysia#The_designer
Indonesia and Malaysia might seemed similar culturally, but we are not the same. Despite all the lores of Majapahit conquering every island in Indonesia today, and even spread into the malay peninsula where Malaysia is today, Majapahit still use the mandala system where those regions are simply tributary states, and mainly had freedom as long as they pay and submit.
I wouldn't share the same confidence. Looking at that user's posting history, they seem to be very... troubled, by Isabella's continued absence.
It is frankly quite a bit farther than one should go with a joke without anything to indicate as such, as well.
Does anyone think there'll be two unique units with leader ability like we can see for America?
It depends if Jay or Git have a personal affinity with any group of militants like Teddy was to Rough Riders, Victoria was to Redcoats and Alex was to Companion Cavalry (Hetaroi) (I know I missed Harald btw)
Can't answer for Gitarja, since I'm not well versed in indonesian or malay history ... But for Jayavarman VII, I doubt it. The Khmer, although they were great Conquerors who submitted more than once their neighbours, are not known for their unique army or so. The most iconic unit from them is the elephant carrying a Balista in a bas-relief in the Bayon. Other than that, they used "traditional" SE asian troops : éléphant units with soldiers armed with spears, archers and infantry. Also, remember that the Khmer armies were mainly made from peasant levied for war by their "captains". The only UU I could see for Jayavarman VII would be a melee ship, since he's known for his decisive victory against the Cham during a naval battle.
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