DMan1 - Operation Iron Cross (aka Panzers attack)

[dmanakho]

I would suggest start saving money at the moment and start researching literature with GL prebuild.
If we manage to build GL we won't need to spend money on techs at all and doesn't matter how far behind we fall until then. The money saved is going to be quite usefull to rush libraries and markets.
We only need to buy Mathematics if we lose GL gamble or if we have another city prepared to build ToZ.
Also if you can pop-rush temples in border towns do it to minimize flipping chances.

Well, All I've said is just my opinion and I am one of the worst players in this team if you look at standings.... So any other comments are quite welcomed.

 

[smackster]

I agree, start researching Literature, and pick a site for GL pre-build.

We will have to research it at max, no point going 10%, the AI will get it in 50 turns.

 

[dmanakho]

I agree, start researching Literature, and pick a site for GL pre-build.

We will have to research it at max, no point going 10%, the AI will get it in 50 turns.

I don't like researching literature at Max Max. I don't like 10% either...
It should be something in the middle.
if we research literature early at max and still have 40+ turns before GL is built we have a good chance to be bullied by AIs trying to get it from us. I doubt early war with Babylon is a good idea since we can't even attack them.
If we research literature and GL is half built at the time i will feel better.

 

[tomasjj]

Sorry for not playing the turns tonight.
Got some visitors.
Will play tomorrow.

JJ

 

[dmanakho]

Sorry for not playing the turns tonight.
Got some visitors.
Will play tomorrow.

JJ

That is cool, just remember you are also up in another SG

 

[tomasjj]

Is it my turn in the other one too?
Man... Sorry about that, but I wasnt sure that the decision to continue with the same game had been taken.
JJ

 

[tomasjj]

One thing, the only real prebuild we can get in Berlin is Pyramids... and thats a bit risky. At least now as we have nada gold. With gold we could buy maths and switch to SoZ.

 

[dmanakho]

It is risky but what you can do is to start with pyramids, go for writing, if you hear that somebody built pyramids you can buy mathematics the same turn and switch to ToZ immediately...
The further you postpone buying mathematics the cheaper it will cost you.

Is there any other city that can be used for GL prebuild anyways?

 

[tomasjj]

Aw.
My puter crashed.
Doesnt happen often.
Celts just finshed the pyramids, but we didnt loose any shields as I opted for one more settler in Berlin. Looking for another prebuild city possibility.
Will play the rest now and post asap.
JJ

 

[tomasjj]

Pre-turn:

We can get Writing from the Babs for 169 + 4gpt and from Ghandi for 148 + 4 gpt. Those are the two best deals

We dont want to give Hammurabi lots of gold, being so close and sprawling.
On the other hand, a gpt deal may ease his powermongering aspirations towards us.
I think the 20 golds extra is worth that, even though he might just not care about it at all.
He is cautious towards us.

We buy writing from Babs for 148 + 4 gpt. Hammurabi is still cautious.

1 - 1350 BC:

My machine crashed into turn 4?, so I will just have to do a quick write up of the main events.

Set our research to lit.

Celts finished the pyramids. Good for them.

Our settlers are moving towards the peninsula to the SE. One more towards the desert, as there may be saltpeter there sometime and we are running out of nice spots. Also, there is a spot SW of Heidelberg, on the tip.
That one can be settled later on.

4 - 1150 BC:

No one has lit. We will have it in approx 18.
Whip temple in Munich at cost of 1 citizen.
Hannover founded on peninsula. Working the cow. Two more settlers there standing by waiting for escort.
Horseman ready next turn, will move there to clear out the rebels.
No other suitable city for GL prebuild. Only option worth considering was Hamburg, but that one has barracks
and only 5 shields compared to Berlins nine at size 6.

5 - 1125 BC:

Hamburg: Horse - Horse.
Munich: Temple - Horse (can be changed to library later)
We can build the FP now. Prebuild should be set too, but we also need troops and dont have many cities.
Darn. I decide to start FP build in Hamburg anyway.
I whip a horse in Frankfurt too. Those settlers must get down there and settle soon. Also that barb camp
might soon grow a bit too annoying. You never know.

6 - 1100 BC:

Celts establish embassy i Berlin
Nurenburg: Warrior-Curragh
Frankfurt: Horseman-Horseman

7 - 1075 BC:

Bremen founded in the desert. Set to build temple.
Our horseman clear out the camp. Two settlers moving in.
Leipzig: Barracks-HM.

8 - 1050 BC:
Berlin: Settler-Temple.

Temple will be done in 8 turns, and before that we can buy Maths and use SoZ as prebuild as
lit wont be ours until about 14 turns.

Not much.
No one still has lit.

9 - 1025 BC:

Our cultural influence expands! Yeah. Towards the Babs. Yeah!

Found Stuttgart. Build set to Curragh as I switch Nuremburg from Curragh to temple.

IBT: Egypt finishes the Oracle.

10 - 1000 BC:

I leave the settler in the west idle as we can choose if we want to use it on the coast, or in the mountains.
Science can be adjusted up, if need be. Still no AI that we know have Lit. Good for us.

Temple can be whipped in Heidelburg the next turn I believe.
In hindsight I guess I couldve started the pre-build in Berlin a settler before. At least we are sure to get maths now before the temple finishes there.
I think our deal with the Celts is over soon. That means more gold in.

Uho... Seems I played a bit more than I was supposed to.
Sorry.
I just scrolled up in the text and saw the starting date.
Bear with me team.

JJ

 

[tomasjj]

And the save:

 

[dl123654]

Got it will play tomorrow.

 

[dmanakho]

Nicely done!!!

and here comes the roster

dl123654 - up and got it
Gozpel - on deck
dmanakho
bed_head7
smackster
tomasjj - just played

 

[smackster]

Is the FP build the pre-build for GL?

Do the Babs have horses. If not lets hook the other horses and trade with them for 20 turns. I would not normally do this, but we can't invade anyway and we may get something good for the trade (but only do it if its worth it). We may be in a position for a phoney war in 20 turns, just to slow them down a bit.

Lets whip that Heidelburg temple so that we can really squeeze the Babs.

 

[tomasjj]

The FP build was not primary a prebuild, as I figured Berlin would be best for the GL. But I had in mind when I started the FP that it could be switched to GL too, or SoZ if need be.

Besides, we are building a FP arent we?

 

[smackster]

Sure we should build an FP, but its not going to help us much so its not a priority yet. The GL pre-build should be a priority over anything, or we will waste the shields.

So we should decide now the city that is building the GL.

We should probably start mining some of the squares around Berlin soon, as we only need a couple more settlers.

 

[tomasjj]

Berlin was my choice for pre-build all along.
Next player can do the finer maths on GL build in either Berlin or the FP city, but
I am certain that Berlin is the choice. Also, as we dont need settlers pumping out from there.
There is at least one worker heading there too, for mining purposes.
You mention a couple more settlers.
Where would you place more cities then? There arent much room left.

 

[smackster]

We want to squeeze Babs, so build new cities far north, where our culture has expanded. We would need to get the settlers from Konigsberg, Heidelberg etc.

Berlin should be switched to the pre-build now and forgo the temple.

 

[dmanakho]

Smackster is right there is some space between Erik and Urudu up north...
We need to squeeze a town there and try to flip Urudu our way. It has beavers we want.

 

[smackster]

We can get two in the north in our culture area, and one further north in the gap between Babylon cities. Each city with a temple will help us.