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Do religions and/or organisms evolve?

Do religions and/or organisms evolve?

  • Yes I do believe that both religions and organisms evolve. (explain your reasoning)

    Votes: 25 92.6%
  • Yes I do think that religions evolve, but that organisms don't. (explain your reasoning)

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • I don't think that religions evolve but organisms do. (explain your reasoning)

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • I don't think either one is able to evolve. (explain your reasoning)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
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Cannae

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Basically that's the question, now as for the poll.
 
Organisms don't evolve, species do.

And if "evolution" refers to "change over time", then yes, religions (and other human institutions, such as government and culture) change over time. But it isn't in the same way.
 
...huh? What do you mean, evolve? Something like memes or whatnot?
 
Organisms don't evolve, species do.
That's what I was meaning to say. :blush:

But it isn't in the same way.
How so?

And if "evolution" refers to "change over time", then yes, religions (and other human institutions, such as government and culture) change over time.
Yes that's waht I was saying.

...huh? What do you mean, evolve? Something like memes or whatnot?
Read above.
 
Both religions and organisms(species) evolve. It is trivial to prove this as both religions and species have changed from what they were in some point in the past.
 
protestants are an evolutionary step of catholicism.

Maybe in 1520, but not in 2000. They've got too many nutty subgroups to be evolved.
 
A result of the Protestant Explosion :)

So they've filled the nutty fundie niches in christianity. Catholicism has filled the rationality niches, though :p
 
It is trivial to prove this as both religions and species have changed from what they were in some point in the past.
Not if you go far enough, you are bound to find something in which could cause a religion to evolve.

Catholicism has filled the rationality niches, though :p
Not always, take the current pope for example. He still a bit nutty.
 
Not always, take the current pope for example. He still a bit nutty.

Eh, in retrospect he's not as bad as a pope possibly could be. At least he's not bad as the popes that condemned ideas of democracy and the enlightenment.

Compared to the nuttiness of Pentecostalism, and the warped ideology of the few protestant churches which actually think that keeping material wealth and not helping people in need is a good thing, it's got nothing.
 
:confused:

Does not compute.
I saying like, if religion A believes in a doctrine but Event A and/or religion B comes into contact, it may cause it to mutate and thus creating a fission or even a total separation to occur. The Religions adapt to what environment they are in and will react when a variable changes, added or removed.
 
I saying like, if religion A believes in a doctrine but Event A and/or religion B comes into contact, it may cause it to mutate and thus creating a fission or even a total separation to occur. The Religions adapt to what environment they are in and will react when a variable changes, added or removed.

Yes. It's the way you said it originally implied that you disagreed with what I had said.
 
Eh, in retrospect he's not as bad as a pope possibly could be. At least he's not bad as the popes that condemned ideas of democracy and the enlightenment.
I'll give you that up to an extent, in comparison to the last pope, he is to total nut job.

Compared to the nuttiness of Pentecostalism, and the warped ideology of the few protestant churches which actually think that keeping material wealth and not helping people in need is a good thing, it's got nothing.
I give you this in some cases, but I do say that the Protestants of the Great Awakening, for example, were a rather good influence and helped create and empower liberalism as it is today.
 
Religions change over time in order to adapt to differing environments, just like species. Any general world history book will give plenty examples of various religions adapting to new events and situations.
 
Religions change over time in order to adapt to differing environments, just like species. Any general world history book will give plenty examples of various religions adapting to new events and situations.
That's basically it. What I am asking for is some YEC and/or anti evolutionist person to come out and refute this claim. Of which, they don't seem to be confident to answer in this thread.
 
1st - evidence (scientific, i'm to lazy to use the back arrow) shows that organizms evolve.
2nd. - The bible evolves from Gods policy w/ Abraham to his new policy represented by Jesus. I see that as an evolution - the best example is the change in 'an eye for an eye' policy.
 
Ridiculous question, really. It's like saying "can chickens and/or a skyscraper be eaten" or "should terrorists and/or babies recieve the death penalty". You've tied two mostly unrelated entities together, without explaining why or how.
 
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