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Do you *love* the United States?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Phlegmak, Apr 6, 2007.

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Do you *love* the United States?

  1. I'm an American and I love my country! USA! USA!

    58 vote(s)
    39.7%
  2. I'm an American and I like my country, but I can't say I love it.

    26 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. I'm an American and I hate my country.

    4 vote(s)
    2.7%
  4. I'm not an American.

    48 vote(s)
    32.9%
  5. I enjoy picking my nose.

    10 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. JohnRM

    JohnRM Don't make me destroy you

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    Obviously your definition of America is different from mine. America is an idea, not a people or land. America is the idea of individual freedom, responsibility, and justice. Those f-tards that you just mentioned, aren't American. They're just posing.
     
  2. useless

    useless Social Justice Rogue

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    america isnt as free as people state it is..
     
  3. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    I know, last time I was down there I spent a fortune! :D
     
  4. Cuchullain

    Cuchullain Prince

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    So ... you're a slave then? Personally, I am not here to serve anyone or anything --- least of all some jingoistic abstract, like a nation, or a party. That is not to say that I don't have loyalties; I simply do not serve them. This sort of blind faith only leads to trouble.
     
  5. candle86

    candle86 Prince

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    The reason we have i high rate, though its around age 16 in America that it happens is parents not taking an active role in there childrens lifestyle. It is not the schools or governments job to fill in where a parent fails.

    The vast majority of american sentiment is not represented here, your forgetting something, most americans do not post on forums, your getting a minority, most of my friends dont even use the internet except for email, and 99% of my friends have the same view as me. It comes from watching the news and seeing you Europeans, england excluded violate the NATO pact and refuse to come to our aid after 9/11 when we attacked afganistan. You said it wasnt your problem. We saw on the news that france was selling guns, planes, missles and god knows what else to Iraq right before the invasion. We are very justified in how we feel about western europe. How i feel about eastern europe, i have no base, and thus no feeling one way or another, they are not American allies except through the UN, and the UN doesnt work anyway, so as it stands the countries i really cant stand are France, Spain, Germany, and Italy.

    America is a country, we are Americans. The idea is freedom from opression, and tyranny. To get it you need to live here though.
     
  6. Cuchullain

    Cuchullain Prince

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    Actually, most Americans are Centrists, at least by our own standards. Periodically we drift a little right of center or a little of center, but basically we remain moderate. It is a very small minority that are as left wing as I am, or as right wing as you appear to be.

    That's a very narrow view. I know many people who subscribe to a similar view of America as John. I know I do.
     
  7. Thorgalaeg

    Thorgalaeg Deity

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    GREEEAT! That means we are doing well. :goodjob:
     
  8. pboily

    pboily fingerlickinmathematickin

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    I knew the Belgians were oppressed, but I wasn't aware that the French, the Dutch and the Australians were also oppressed.

    This thread has been an eye opener.
     
  9. Bast

    Bast Protector of Cats

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    I'm not American but I'm still USA USA. :crazyeye: :goodjob:
     
  10. pboily

    pboily fingerlickinmathematickin

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    Clearly, the high teenage pregnancy rates in the States is due to illegal immigrants (the kind who set the American flag on fire), and not to actual Americans who are still taught morals in Texan schools.

    It's a shame they don't also teach them statistics and how to go on a fact-finding mission, but one step at a time, one step at a time.
     
  11. shadowdude

    shadowdude cynic in training

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    Yes, I love the United States, but I hate how some "patriots" get wrapped up in patriotism and fail to see the many faults that our country has...
     
  12. Thorgalaeg

    Thorgalaeg Deity

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    Prove it. And BTW Europa is plenty of immigrants too, so hardly an excuse in any case. :mischief:
     
  13. pboily

    pboily fingerlickinmathematickin

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    maybe the sarcasm didn't come through as well as I thought it would...
     
  14. Thorgalaeg

    Thorgalaeg Deity

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    Ops, my fault totally. Reading again your post with more attention sarcasm results more than obvious. ;)
     
  15. candle86

    candle86 Prince

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    To be honest, your an idiot, and you can not read, but thats ok. Your from canada, we Americans dont expect much from you anyway. I mean 90% of you are pot heads anyway, so tell ya what, come back when your not smoking that happy grass, and your country has a since of dignity, instead of doing nothing, while whineing about everything

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  16. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    He's right pboily, maybe we should get off our arses and send some troops to Afganistan. Maybe coax our friends the Dutch to do so as well.
     
  17. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    To be honest, so are you, and neither can you. Not two posts above he explains explicitly that his post was total sarcasm, but it's so thick it makes molasses in the wintertime look like Kate Moss, how you missed it is beyond me.

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  18. pboily

    pboily fingerlickinmathematickin

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    Well, it won't make up for the fact that we didn't send any troops overseas during the 2nd World War, and that we just sat and watched as the US took on the Nazis, alone, from the get-go.
     
  19. pboily

    pboily fingerlickinmathematickin

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    molasses...
     
  20. candle86

    candle86 Prince

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    the last major militray action you people did take action is was WW2. 200 candian troops sitting behind the lines in afganistan amounts more to goodwill tour than anything of much value when combat is concerned
     

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