Do You Support State Sponsered, Mandatory Education?

[Aphex_Twin]

If it's just the money argument, then we should really have a talk about military spending. Why should one pay for an airforce when one can buy his personal barbed wire, concrete walls and gun implacements? In fact, why should one pay taxes at all? Why not grow your own crops, mine your own ore, smelt your own iron, kill your own steak...

The final question: why do we need more than one man (or woman) living on Earth?

 

[phoenix_night]

Originally posted by newfangle
You're evading the point. Tell me exaclty why I should be forced into paying for the education of all children. Don't give me the usual altruist egalitarian diatribe. Tell me why. It's a very simply question.

Because you live in a democracy where the people support the idea.

 

[Aphex_Twin]

Originally posted by newfangle
You're evading the point. Tell me exaclty why I should be forced into paying for the education of all children. Don't give me the usual altruist egalitarian diatribe. Tell me why. It's a very simply question.

Because your children will need a society to function in and an economy to support them.

Also, what makes you so sure that the children of the rich are the brightest of all and most deserving of all?

 

[FearlessLeader2]

Originally posted by Speedo
I know a woman who home-schools her daughters, but this woman is barely capable of telling you the answer to 2+2, but is trying to teach her children algebra, trig, and the like.

I also know twin 12 yr old boys who have been homeschooled all the way. They both read on about a second grade (7 yr old) level.

Shall I go on?

Two Words:

Tightly Regulated

 

[thestonesfan]

Originally posted by Speedo
My point exactly. Quite simply, a great many of the parents out there are not capable of giving their child a decent education. If they want to homeschool, let them prove that they are capable.

Same goes for professional teachers.

 

[aaron_burr]

Socialized education has to go. Less importantly, so should the requirement to educate your children. There is too much potential for abuse.

Public schools are basically day care for yuppie parents and indoctrination centers for PC educators. They are almost worthless.

"But we need an educated public... blahblahblah." Sure, the public school system has worked so well, let's keep going the way it is. Truth be told, those who want to be educated will get it themselves, whether in a private school or sitting in a library or out in the "school of life." People who want to be ignoramuses, and children whose parents place no value in education will grow up to be uneducated no matter how much the government tries to school them. It's like herding cats.

So, government schools are basically chasing the wind at taxpayer expense. Unless you like the "free" day care and brainwashing.

 

[Hayek]

Originally posted by aaron_burr
"But we need an educated public... blahblahblah." Sure, the public school system has worked so well, let's keep going the way it is. Truth be told, those who want to be educated will get it themselves, whether in a private school or sitting in a library or out in the "school of life." People who want to be ignoramuses, and children whose parents place no value in education will grow up to be uneducated no matter how much the government tries to school them. It's like herding cats.

Some professor G. E. West did some work on the effect of compulsory schooling. According to his research, before mandatory schooling, something over 90 per cent got schooled. In my opinion, the marginal benefit of making education mandatory is not big enough to justify it.

 

[Speedo]

children whose parents place no value in education will grow up to be uneducated no matter how much the government tries to school them. It's like herding cats.

Quite the opposite. Many people who's parents place no value on education want to learn all the more. If they can't get any help from their parents (who don't care about education, remember) will miss out on having any opportunity at all.

 

[nihilistic]

Originally posted by Speedo
Quite the opposite. Many people who's parents place no value on education want to learn all the more. If they can't get any help from their parents (who don't care about education, remember) will miss out on having any opportunity at all.

Not exactly the opposite. The amount of serious attention a child's parents devote to education does correlate positively with a child's performance in school, especially when the child is young. Note that I'm not saying that it is true in every case. I'm just noting that there is a very strong correlation.

 

[Sims2789]

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