Do your social policies reflect your personal beliefs?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Emperor Giulio, Jul 25, 2011.

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  1. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Super Moderator Supporter

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  2. Glassmage

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    LOL! You can't classify a policy as "evil" or "good". Piety can be bad in the form of religious wars, but it also gives people comfort, community, and create moral codes. Rationalism is good because it strives to improve human conditions, to understand nature and how humans can control nature to better mankind. It can also be bad if science is used in warfare & it can leads to multiple ethical dilemmas.

    In short, people only complain that Piety is BAD and Rationalism is GOOD because they look at the past so critically, but not at the future so much. You people ever think that science in some way is a religion?!? (except it is more critical because of the scientific theory)
     
  3. KeyCey1995

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    :agree:

    A bright head...!:D
     
  4. starrywisdom

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    Trying to compare science with religion is a very tired and tried question/comparison - one of which leads nowhere. You can attempt to rationalize religion as good as it can bring peace and comfort - but so can some illegal narcotics, and many 'evil' things. Religion may offer piece and comfort but it comes at a high cost. Although this discussion is a little off-topic. If you would like to create another thread in the appropriate forum - please do so :)
     
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    Then it won't be at this site...
    There's not really any off-topic category in here.
     
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  8. Emperor Giulio

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    Just for the record, I was only kidding when I said autocracy was "evil", I don't actually believe in good or evil.
     
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    ANYWAY...

    The policy branches I chose sort of reflect my views - I always go Rationalism, Freedom, Liberty - but not all of my decisions are based on that. I often go Commerce because I love being called a Doge. But anyway, other than that, I live in New Zealand, and never more than a stone's throw away from a beach. So in the game, most of my empires, unless forced otherwise, are mass costal stretches.
     
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    I tend to create a sort of moneygrubbing, production spamming bureucratic republic. So I usually take Tradition, Liberty, Commerce, Order, and Rationalism. Although I hate the concept of communism and know its many flaws I love to adopt in this game. Order usually solves all my problems in the end of the game
     
  11. civnoob13

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    I always laugh when I get that 'science is a religion' rubbish.

    Anyway, to keep on subject, and to summarise what I've said in this thread, I think that you are only restricting your own enjoyment by rejecting certain playstyles due to your beliefs. Being an evil dictator can be fun in civ, it has no bearing on reality.
     
  12. Emperor Giulio

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    I agree with that, like I said, i've used piety, and I don't believe in it. For autocracy, I certainly would never want to live in one, but I can play the role of evil dictator in civ for enjoyment because I know its not hurting anyone.

    If you haven't already, check out this site: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

    It helps to determine positions on the left and right political specturm, in regards to economic, and social questions.

    I'm slightly left of center
     
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    Horizons Needing fed again!

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    Dude, that's a tiny bit ... analretentive ...
     
  14. Emperor Giulio

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    That was actually a simplified history of the U.S. from the founding, to the gilded age, and into the new deal era told in somewhat civ terms.

    It's not that it's anal-retentive, those are some broad issues political leaders deal with. A lot of those concepts I spoke of are actually old concepts from previous games that were removed to make civ more streamlined for a broader audience. There's a lot of people out there that want Civ to revert back into a more complex game.
     
  15. Emperor Giulio

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    an additional penalty to industrial capitalism would be an occasional halt to production in some cities, and an uprising similar to what happens in civ 5 if happiness is on red too long. A real-life example would have been the Railroad strikes of 1877, were federal troops were called to suppress the strikers.

    Also an occasional depression, capitalism is a volatile system of booms and busts.

    sorry... I was brainstorming :D
     
  16. Glassmage

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    How about a special event where your nation default on debts and everyone dies...
     
  17. strhopper

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    Took your test, put me center/right libertarian. Which I knew I was. Thanks for the fun little test. Questions though did seem a little slanted to the left but fun none the less
     
  18. Emperor Giulio

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    Your welcome, and yea I noticed the slant too.

    I basically said no to all the religious/social conservative stuff, and yes to capitalism with some regulation.
     
  19. Emperor Giulio

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    lmao!
     
  20. JWAT44

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    look at this thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=10728501#post10728501 its my idea on a more complex economic system for a future game
     
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