Has anyone had any success with china's UHV using Leoreth's mod? I have tried many times over the last week or so and have not been able to do it. Under normal RFC its no problem but with Leoreth's mod its a whole other animal. The first issue is just getting to code of laws first in order to get Taoism. Many times either babylon or Greece would get it through the Oracle before I could even get close. If that doesn't happen its a flat out race anyways. My first attempts I attempted to play the map like I would any other. I teched pottery, animal husbandry, and bronzeworking before actually going for COL. Bad idea. I then went through a couple of games were I attempted to discover the optimal tech path to get it in time and not be in the dumps economically. I discovered that teching wheel/pottery/writing then building libraries in my two cities while going after bronzeworking/and then alphabet worked best. This way I could run cottages and scientists in my two cities for commerce. Two important step I found were to cottage over all resources except for the wheat at Beijing and to use my generated GS for an academy and not to bulb mathematics as I originally did. I would tech mathematics as my newly created spy traveled towards India and Persia to trade for the COL prereqs. This is the only way I was able to consistently get COL before my rivals, usually around turn 120-130. My next idea was to send the spy to Greece to trade for the prereqs for Music while teching towards Paper for my taoist academies. My reasoning was that I could use the academies to help me tech to Music. I have not yet attempted to go the other way (music before paper) but I can see no logical reason to do so. Usually around this time two events happen that kill my game. One is the inevitable DOW by Japan. I have done everything possible to stop this and even had Jimmu up to pleased with me once but he still attacks. The other event is the plague. This one is even more game breaking as it takes my research pumping cities and turns them into shells of their former glory. By the time I am able to recover, I usually only have 30 or so turns left to get my goal, I usually have four more cities left to settle, 4 more temples left to build and usually haven't started researching music yet. Anyway, for those of you still reading, is there something I'm missing?