So I typically play Standard-sized maps, because my computer and my patience have a hard time with anything much bigger. I've almost always played "Tall" (1 - 6 large, built-up, highly-advanced cities), sometimes with as many puppet cities as my Happiness and Science can afford. Every time I try to play "Wide" (lots of smaller, less productive cities) on Immortal or Deity, I run into big, early problems. I have to expand very quickly, because if I don't the AI will have taken up all the territory around me and I don't have the space for 12 cities. But expanding quickly does a couple bad things. First, I'm forced to build more settlers and fewer military units. Second, the AI gets super pissed because: 1) they covet lands I own 2) they demand that I not settle near their lands, upon which in order to continue going wide I have to 2a) make a promise to stop expanding near them and break it or 2b) ignore their request 3) they believe I am building new cities too aggressively Eventually, the AI declares war (often in large groups), and while I can successfully defend a compact empire of 1 - 6 cities, there ain't no way I can defend 12. Combine this with the fact that if you're trying to build 12 cities on Immortal, you need good relations with the AI to trade for luxuries, cuz there ain't no way you're keeping 12 cities happy with just the luxuries in your border. All told, it drives me to perpetually play Tall, even when I set out to play Wide. Are there any Immortal/Deity players who play Wide? Or is Tall just the superior strategy?