Yesterday I thought lets up the stakes since I win monarch too easily now and go for emperor. Stalin on great plains. My capital is ok, get stonehenge, spam a few cities and then the misery is starting. I mean every turn there is at least 1 barb coming into my land. No horses, copper not connected yet (and 1 destroyed after getting online) and a real barb infestation. I think I killed about 30 barbs in total in a matter of 50 turns or so. I have never seen so many barbs. So is this normal on higher levels? (no raging barbs was not on).
Does barb activity increase with higher levels?
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Yes. Their spawn rate is defined in the xmls and higher difficulties have more/fog tile.
slaze
Deity
iirc it's like 1 per 20 unrevealed tiles per turn on deity, 1 per 25 tiles immortal, etc...
I believe the above is accurate but I don't think it's linear (as the above implies). I just forget the rest.
I believe the above is accurate but I don't think it's linear (as the above implies). I just forget the rest.
Well that would explain also why I would get barb infested since the AI expands faster. If I am not mistaken is that the spawning is also related to the number of cities right? In this case I was in the upper left corner of great plains where it is very hard to fog bust properly.
Barbs are way more harder on emperor than on monarch. Great Plains -types of maps are particularly hard. I either tech Archery or connect bronze (horses are good but then I need archery anyway because of spears) by my second city. If leader is not Creative, bronze must be on city's initial square, border pop takes too long. Otherwise I'm in great danger of even losing cities.
Keeping units in cities is obviously not enough, fogbusting is essential to protect the improviments. In many games there is a moment between 1500 BC-1000 BC when barbs suddenly start come in hordes and you must must have fogbusters by then.
Keeping units in cities is obviously not enough, fogbusting is essential to protect the improviments. In many games there is a moment between 1500 BC-1000 BC when barbs suddenly start come in hordes and you must must have fogbusters by then.
feralminded
Obsessive Number Cruncher
Yeah on emperor or above I get REALLY scared if I don't have metal or horses hooked up by 1500BC because its around that time that the Barbs DO. Not only are there MORE barbs but they have better weapons sooner and will attack cities sooner. Its a serious snowball effect and if you are on a pangea or highlands/lakes type map you're really in for it. That said if you can get them under control they are an awesome way to level your troops early. Nothing like having an army full of 10XP barbarian slayers to march into another civ's territory.
Bleys
Deity
Emp and above I basically take one chance at a military resource (BW or AH, depending on the Civ I am playing) and if it doesnt pan out, I go to Archery. You just cant wait. Once you have Archery, the rest of the early-game becomes a lot easier.
Great plain is one continent, so as soon as I and the AI start expanding, barbs will show up. Being in the upper left corner (near all the mountains) gives you a lot of black spots where they will show up but I never thought that barb infestation would be that bad. Archery saved my butt since copper was very far away and I didn't have any horses. I did build one wonder with Stalin only and my capital was a production wonder house. Archer spam was more important.
