Domen vs ori

There is no review on foot until he follows the steps described in the rules. It is his responsibility to contact a supermoderator with a review request, which he hasn't done. We cannot conduct a review if there has been no valid review request. It is important that this process is followed in a published review, so as to not raise any expectation that the outlined process can be subverted.

 

Vote to uphold.

Please see this thread Bootstoots compiled in the recycle bin of Domen's recent posting of spam. Any one of these could have been infracted but it seems we held back because we were reluctant to permaban him.

 

Admittedly, the rules don't explicitly set out that you shouldn't make the review request to the supermod who has issued the infraction. But as "the supermod you contact will preside over the review", it's implicit in the rules that this should not be the infracting supermod. So the process isn't that the poster can just declare their request for a review as part of their "genuine attempt to resolve their concerns" and make the infracting supermod do the rest. They're actually meant to present the issue to another supermod - to make a case of sorts beyond their PM discussion with the infracting supermod.

Beyond just creating more work for the infracting supermod, the course Domen has chosen prevents the review process from being properly 'presided' over. It's procedurally problematic to have the review initially framed by the infracting supermod, and then to not have a supermod designated as presiding. Step 4 is pretty much avoided, too.

 

I note that this is not an RD thread, and I note that He has had multiple specific warning on genetics spam. How do these two interplay?

 

Fair enough, so long as a take-away message for any readers is to please follow the procedure set out in the rules.

I agree that user-specific instructions trump the regular non-RD rules. When Domen was told to not spam this sort of thing, it was clear that the instruction didn't simply apply to RD threads. So this seems to be pretty clear spam, and an infraction of 2 points is therefore justified (the higher number of points simply being to properly give effect to the consequence of the infraction).

Of particular relevance is this warning (for this post), which was in a non-RD thread.

Though it should probably be noted that there was later on this warning (for this post), in which the wording was a little more ambiguous. But not ambiguous enough that he should've been under any misapprehension as to the allowance for making the post the subject of the infraction now under review.

In this infraction (predating his place on the permanent points program, for this post), it was specifically noted that the user-specific rule in relation to Poland applied to non-RD threads; there's no reason to think that spam on other topics would be fine in those threads.

 

Just received a PM from Domen and my answer:

Spoiler :

Moderator Action: PM's redacted as requested by Domen.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

Seems it is unanimous to uphold, save Lefty's question.

Other comments please.

 

I am satisfied, that he had direction on the issue.


Vote Uphold

 

We were not discussing it. I think he was trying to be helpful.

 

It is from this thread.

 

Sent this to Domen: