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Domestic: Possible City Sites for City 2

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Demo Game III: Citizens' started by Chieftess, May 5, 2003.

  1. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    This is some discussion on our next city site, The land to the NE looks rather harsh, so our best option is to the SW. I'd take the one to the immediate SW as the next city site. I'm not sure of the terrain, but I'm hoping for some more grasslands, since there are some grassland tiles, and a river. These aren't set in stone, since we need to explore that area.

     
  2. Peri

    Peri Vote early and vote often

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    The south west is clearly the way forward.
    it offers a river for +6 growth and grassland/bonus grassland. It would waste precious early turns to seek out a new site when this one looks so good.
     
  3. Plexus

    Plexus Architeuthidae puericomedentis

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    I concurr. The SW looks best.
     
  4. Strider

    Strider In Retrospect

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    I would agree with the SW location.
     
  5. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    I would also like the warrior to explore the SW area the most, as that's where we might be putting our next city.
     
  6. Stuck_as_a_Mac

    Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri

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    While scouting the SW, Id like it if we were to also scout directly W. If not, just a direct run to the South and South West. Who knows? Mabey we can find another city like Morgana? (The Iron on a hill strategy part)
     
  7. Siegmund

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    SW looks good to me. And would lean toward having it be the 'settler factory' city rather than using the capital for that, too, probably, since its land is suited for growth without improvement.

    The dot to the NW will be a nice six-6 site once we bring irrigation up that way, but it isn't a high priority site like the SW is.
     
  8. amirsan

    amirsan King of all Kings

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    SW should be our settler factory while we find out what we are going to do with our capitol.
     
  9. Shaitan

    Shaitan der Besucher

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    I agree with SW. It's far and away the best spot for our second city.
     
  10. Cpt Kaos

    Cpt Kaos Chieftain

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    I concur to the SW we should go
     
  11. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    With all these "SW Spot"s, do we even need a vote? ;)

    Also, the NW plains city won't give much in the way of hills at the start. Only 2 hills before the city stops growing. It'll reach its' full potential during the industrial age. Same for the west one depending on the terrain. The SW does have the greatest potential, but I'd like to see more land in that area rather than continue up the NE hills.
     
  12. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Is the SW on the river?
     
  13. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    Yes, it's on the river bend.
     
  14. Panzer

    Panzer Mobile Front

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    In my experience a city on a river bend has required an aqueduct to grow past 6.
    EDIT: could someone confirm this right or wrong, I cannot find the example city that I was thinking of.

    I would agree that we need to see more of the SW to be sure of the position, and also that the SW is the direction to move.
     
  15. naervod

    naervod My current user title

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    SW is the way to go. Also, Pnazer, I think no Aqueduct is needed on river cities.
     
  16. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

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    We need fertile grounds for our settler and worker factories. The only location close to our capital seems to be SW.
     
  17. Watergate

    Watergate Chieftain

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    SW clearly. But I had also the problem Panzer describes. City on river bent - aquaeduct needed.
     
  18. Shaitan

    Shaitan der Besucher

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    We'll know more of that terrain with a bit of exploration. We actually don't need the final city location for the next chat. 8 turns to produce the settler and two movements towards the southwest is a full chat. That will expose the terrain in the area so we can make a fully educated decision. As SW is the overwhelming favorite that general direction is all we really need right now.
     
  19. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    I've analyzed the save, and came up with these figures:



    It appears the yellow spot is the best. While blue *may* be able to have a couple of more spt, yellow will be the more productive of the two. 20spt is a nice round number (which means no wasted shields), and also borders the river. There will be shields lost due to corruption, but that can be fixed with a courthouse. The final total (after a factory, nuke plant, Mfg Plant, etc.) is 160spt!!!!
     
  20. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    This discussion aims to narrow it down even further. We've explored the area to the SW, and there's 3 possible spots:



    If we want to settle now...
    Red risks an encounter with a barb.
    Blue has some risk.
    yellow has almost no risk.
     

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