Domesticated Megafauna mini alt history development thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw

Nuff said

... Point me to a walk through on how to do it and I'll get right on it : )

 

Here ya go:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=167335

 

@GT Ranma

Oh well mutated ill tempered sea bass? Why didn't you say so. Sure we can have those.

 

We really need a "modern megafauné ^^

Or worst

Spoiler :

 

Sooo, when we getting our first mega-fauna in game?

 

What do you mean? Megafauna like Mammoths, Sabertooths, Elephants, Bison, etc already spawn on the map normally. If you take Megafauna Domestication tech then you can make some of the special units such as Mammoth Riders, Bison Riders and Bear Riders. But they are wonders so only one civ will get a specific type. So yeah they have been in the game for awhile now.

 

Ok, I should be more specific, when can I use my Genetic Engineering and Cloning Techs to make me some friggen T-Rex's and create a Jurassic park?

Edit: Oooh! and everything in this http://www.cracked.com/funny-5408-bad-ass/
Of course, especially the Dinosaurs, even the Volcano is bad ass!

 

Ecological Engineering tech I think for the "Pliocene Park" and Time Travel tech for the Dinosaur Park.

 

Is there any game with Dinosaur models that we could use, or are they just not feasible?

Because if there were, I wouldn't mind a modmod or an alt-time line mod with them in it. Would be fun having your Spearman eaten by a Dino

 

@GT Ranma

Ok I looked it up and the "Pleistocene Park" requires Cloning and Ecological Engineering tech. And "Dinosaur Park" requires Cloning and Time Travel.

In addition there is a Raptor unit graphic which DH use to use as the Komodo Dragon before we got a more appropriate graphic. Dinosaurs and chimera style lab creatures have been discussed to be included in the Biopunk tech. So yes there will be at least in the far future a dinosaur style unit.

Sorry no Caveman and Dinosaurs like in the Flintstones. While I know of a plausible alt-timeline that allows for non-avian dinosaurs to exist along side humans, we are not going that far in C2C. If someone wants to make a modmod that's fine, but not the core C2C.

 

Cool, alright, I will wait with bated breath for the day my army of Lasersaurus Rex can stop on some poor unsuspecting city

 

@GT Ranma

Ok here are some proposals for the Feline Units ...

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Trained Cats [National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: Black Panther
Icon/Button: Black Panther
Type: Feline
Req Tech: Feline Domestication AND Megafauna Domestication
Req: Resource: Big Cats
Req Building: Big Cat Trainer
Strength: 4
Movement: 1
Cost: 30
Upgrades To: Warcats

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• -50% City Attack
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack
• +25% vs Hunters
• +25% vs Recon

-----

Warcats [National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: Black Panther
Icon/Button: Black Panther
Type: Feline
Req Tech: Military Training
Req: Resource: Big Cats AND (Copper OR Iron OR Obsidian)
Req Building: Warcat Trainer
Strength: 6
Movement: 2
Cost: 40
Upgrades To: Guard Cats

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• -50% City Attack
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack
• +25% vs Hunters
• +25% vs Recon

-----

Guard Cats [National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: Black Panther
Icon/Button: Black Panther
Type: Feline
Req Tech: Leadership
Req: Resource: Big Cats
Req Building: Guard Cat Trainer
Strength: 18
Movement: 2
Cost: 240
Upgrades To: Police Cats

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• -50% City Attack
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack
• +25% vs Hunters
• +25% vs Recon

-----

Police Cats [National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: Black Panther
Icon/Button: Black Panther
Type: Feline
Req Tech: Criminology
Req: Resource: Big Cats
Req Building: Police Cat Trainer
Strength: 26
Movement: 2
Cost: 410
Upgrades To: Feline Superior

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• -50% City Attack
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack
• +25% vs Hunters
• +25% vs Recon
• -5 Crime Per Turn (City)
• -3 Crime Per Turn (Plot)
• +5 Cost Per Turn

-----

Feline Superior [National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: Black Panther with Increased Size
Icon/Button: Black Panther
Type: Feline / Clone
Req Tech: Homo Superior
Req: Resource: Big Cats
Req Building: RePet
Strength: 51
Movement: 2
Cost: 2410
Upgrades To: -

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• -50% City Attack
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack
• +25% vs Hunters
• +25% vs Recon
• +25% vs Clones
• -10 Crime Per Turn (City)
• -5 Crime Per Turn (Plot)
• +8 Cost Per Turn

-----

As you can see they are stealthy and get bonuses in places like forests and jungles. I have them get a bonus to Hunters and Recon so those types actually have something to fear. The last 2 get a bonus to anti-crime like the canine units do. The building requirments I am not sure of. Since you (or me) would need to make ...

- Warcat Trainer
- Guard Cat Trainer
- Police Cat Trainer

And of course the Big Cat Trainer wonder that would provide Big Cat resource. But that's not optional.

 

Ok, I know it is not 100% right yet, but what do I have to add to the code to add in:

• Invisible to Most Units
• Hidden Nationality
• Can Attack without Declaring War
• Cannot Capture Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
• +10% Jungle Attack
• +10% Forest Attack

?
The rest should be close to what we need, right? If I get the 'format' right with this first one, I'll just use it as a template to make the next units.

Spoiler :

Code:

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			<Type>UNIT_TRAINEDCAT</Type>
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			<Special>NONE</Special>
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			<Combat>UNITCOMBAT_CANINE</Combat>
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			<DefaultUnitAI>UNITAI_PILLAGE_COUNTER</DefaultUnitAI>
			<Invisible>NONE</Invisible>
			<SeeInvisible>INVISIBLE_CAMOUFLAGE</SeeInvisible>
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			<Civilopedia>TXT_KEY_UNIT_WARCAT_PEDIA</Civilopedia>
			<Strategy>TXT_KEY_UNIT_TRAINEDCAT_STRATEGY</Strategy>
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			<bMilitaryProduction>1</bMilitaryProduction>
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			<bDestroy>0</bDestroy>
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			<bFirstStrikeImmune>0</bFirstStrikeImmune>
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			<bIgnoreBuildingDefense>0</bIgnoreBuildingDefense>
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			<UnitCombatTargets/>
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			<UnitCombatDefenders/>
			<FlankingStrikes/>
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				<UnitAI>
					<UnitAIType>UNITAI_ATTACK</UnitAIType>
					<bUnitAI>1</bUnitAI>
				</UnitAI>
				<UnitAI>
					<UnitAIType>UNITAI_RESERVE</UnitAIType>
					<bUnitAI>1</bUnitAI>
				</UnitAI>
				<UnitAI>
					<UnitAIType>UNITAI_COUNTER</UnitAIType>
					<bUnitAI>1</bUnitAI>
				</UnitAI>
				<UnitAI>
					<UnitAIType>UNITAI_PILLAGE_COUNTER</UnitAIType>
					<bUnitAI>1</bUnitAI>
				</UnitAI>
			</UnitAIs>
			<NotUnitAIs/>
			<Builds/>
			<ReligionSpreads/>
			<CorporationSpreads/>
			<GreatPeoples/>
			<Buildings/>
			<ForceBuildings/>
			<HolyCity>NONE</HolyCity>
			<ReligionType>NONE</ReligionType>
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			<PrereqBonuses/>
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		</UnitInfo>

P.S. Thanks DH! Hmm, spoil didn't work, but code is more then good enough.
P.S.S Now that I think of it CODE might have been overwriting SPOIL, but I don't need both
P.P.S.S Huh, well, it worked that time...

 

Spoiler :

yes it is called "spoil". If you Go Advanced you can see the button for it. You should probably also use the code tag (# button) around the XML so that the formatting is not lost.

 

@GT Ranma

Take a look at a Thief or Rogue unit. They have the invisible/hidden code. I don't make units directly so you may want to ask ls612 or DH.

 

Yes pls use it just looks better and saves wasted time looking trough so much, thx

 

@Hydro:

I'm still working on this, just VERY slowly. My #1 priority currently is finding a new job.

 

That's fine. We still need to wait on the Feline Domestication tech getting put in anyways.

 

I'm agreed on the rarity for alt-timeline units. They're crazy what if's not anything else. That said, I'm not sure a wonder is the way to do it. I like the idea that more then one civ might figure them out - albeit not very often. Maybe make them available from a (very rare) event as well?

Talking of events, are events in C2C significantly different to normal events? If not, I could do a bunch up to deal with potential what-ifs. Things like extinction events, but also allowing what-ifs to open up, become more/less dominant, etc.

 

This is why my suggestion is to unlock these techs and their resulting 'gifts' via the use of Great Scientists only. Thus more than one civ could unlock the techs or none could, depending on the situation. Additionally, its my opinion that the Great Scientist is one of the lesser GPs at the moment and this solution could bring him back into contention as something highly desirable.