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Domination vs Conquest

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Jimmyballz, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. Jimmyballz

    Jimmyballz Executive

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    Hi all-

    Ever since moving up to Prince, which was right at the time 3.17 came out, I've had the hardest time getting a war victory, Domination and/or Conquest.

    If CFC taught me anything, is that people seem to think Conquest is easier to win. Is this true? I would think that Domination is easier (60% land seems easier than wiping everyone off the globe.)


    Bottom Line: I want to win a victory warring. Should I go for Domination or Conquest?
     
  2. Commodore Nate

    Commodore Nate Warlord

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    Wanna win conquest? Vassalize all your neighbors.
    That don't sound good? Just raze every city you capture when your juggernaut gets rolling.
    Wanna win domination? You'll probably have a lot more gaps between your wars to let your new cities' culture spread.
     
  3. say1988

    say1988 Deity

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    Depends on the map and settings, and events of the game.
    I don't pick which until I start to gain control. If I lack gold, I might raze all cites on a continent or two and settle for conquest. Also, if I get some big vassals, it may make conquest easier. And typically I plan for conquest, and if I hit dom, I hit dom.

    The big advantage conquest has is that if you vassalize everybody you get it.
    Domination gets half from vassals, but you might avoid invading a continent or taking on a major power.

    The other big thing is that if you start wth a lot of land and can REX like crazy, you might get a good part of the Dom limit without [major] wars
     
  4. Tacgnol

    Tacgnol Warlord

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    This, generally I take no vassals on my own continent, and in others I try to vassalize everyone as soon as possible, I usually still end up hitting domination with 1 or 2 civs left though. If you really want conquest, vassalize everyone past feudalism, but I personally don't care, a win is a win.
     
  5. MrCynical

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    In practice I find I have to actively avoid domination (by razing cities cities I woud normally keep, and so on) in order to get a conquest victory. If you just take the approach of conquering your neighbours you'll probably hit domination before conquest.
     
  6. GooglyBoogly

    GooglyBoogly Freakamongus

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    Just turn off domination for a guaranteed conquest military victory - the movie is awesome!
     
  7. say1988

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but he doesn't want conquest, he wants either, but wants to know which to aim for.

    And while I had a long winded post before they both come down to this:
    Kill and/or capitulate whoever I can, and if things turn desperate, turtle and go for culture :).
     
  8. Jerrymander

    Jerrymander Epistemologist

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    Domination is sometimes worse than conquest because you have to have a certain % of the world.
    Conquest on a map like Terra is easy, but Domination isn't.
     
  9. Jimmyballz

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    Thanks guys. Now I see how conquest can be easier.
    If a leader gives me the "We're doing fine on our own" line, well they're gonna have to die then.:lol:

    @GooglyBoogly: I dont turn off victories, but nice try:). yes the movie is great, I just never done it on Prince level since 3.17. (used to love the tanks w their collateral damage). I've won a culture and space race victory on prince tho

    Re: capitulation.. I've done this before, conquering a large island and capitulating where I think Isabella joined and took over. I assume this counts to a conquest victory just like a vassal state.
     
  10. Orzio

    Orzio Prince

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    Go for the miltiary UN win vote yourself leader with the help of some vassals :D
     

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