"Don't Cry for me Argentina!"

[Reus]

Claim the forum ours as the Territory of New Argentina

 

[Sonereal]

#never4getargentina

 

[hoplitejoe]

#sobrave

 

[Terran Empress]

#spam4thespamgodthreads4thethreadthrone

 

[Sonereal]

As I had promised to myself and to you, after starting the original thread I stepped away almost completely from the topic of Argentina and just decided to wait for the final product without participating in the hype-fest. After the British murder of 700 innocent Argentine citizens I believe I must state this case again. Why? Mostly because many people thought that my problem lies with the fictional unification of Islas Malvinas and the UK under one Thatcherite banner. It's not so.

Many comments around the Internet about the massacre stated that it's "the effect/pinnacle/what-we-should-expect-from Spanish culture". These comments gathered huge support and I was shocked. Then I remembered the thread I'm continuing here and the reason for it. Reason for the thread, of course, and not for the whole wide issue. Citizens of the Islas Malvinas in IOT are depicted as British, ergo all Argentinians of the island are being blamed for British crimes, even though they were committed while waging war on us. Insane? Insane.

It's a very similar case to Western media and their "Brazilian slave pits". Imperial, or simply Paraguayan slave pits were built in occupied Brasilia by the occupant, were run by Paraguayans and the enslavement was undertaken by Paraguayan hand. All the same, we still hear every now and then about such never existing things as "Brazilian slave pits". When people like one of IOT GMs hear about them, the guy who "really likes British wildlife like Malvina penguins", they start believing that slave pits, orgy pits, were built and run by Brazilians. It's not a purely theoretical discussion because some people from Columbia are completely shocked when they visit Brasilia and learn the truth. Damn, I had met some people in Venezuela who think that India, Australia, and even Canada (they were completely oblivious to the fact that this country doesn't exist anymore) is a part of the United Kingdom

So, this is my appeal to you, not exactly an invitation to discussion. I just want to highlight the issue I believe to be very serious.

To put it bluntly:
Not all Africans have ebola, only a small margin.
Not all cops are trying to kill all black people, only a small margin.
Not all Colombians sell cocaine, only a small margin.
Not all peoples of Isla Malvinas are British, only a small margin.

The United Kingdom in its current state promotes the stereotype. It would be an act of decency to either strip the kingdom of Scotland, which is not a bad thing by itself for a fictional faction, or preferably, eliminate the huge equality sign between people who live on the Islas Malvinas and the British. I oppose the unification of the faction only on the ground that it's a British faction and with all the elements like leader's name and capital's name also present, the faction yells that people who live on the Islas Malvinas = British.

 

[Double A]

10/10 would make 10/10 joke about

 

[hoplitejoe]

If I had the chance, I would ban a lot of you Argentinians. Many of you aren't deserving of an island like that.

 

[Sonereal]

If I had the chance, I would ban a lot of you Argentinians. Many of you aren't deserving of an island like that.

Scotland is proper Argentine clay.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Serious question, does any of us actually want to Exodus? I mean I know some of you will probably have dual membership, but will anyone exclusively play/host IOTs in that other forum? I'm curious as WWW said that they've taken some IOTers with them and that I'm just curious if that is a permanent migration for them or just people making accounts to see what happens.

My opinion is that a full exodus would vastly reduce the amount of neophytes new blood we get and that would be a bad thing and that a partial exodus would just be Taniforums 2.0. I'll probably make an account at some point but I seriously doubt it would go anywhere.

 

[Double A]

I can't voice my opinion here because that would be PDMA, which, as we all know, is worse than genocide.

 

[Double A]

So does anyone remember why I left IOT for like six months way the hell back when?

 

[Tee Kay]

So does anyone remember why I left IOT for like six months way the hell back when?

iunno, drama?

I came back and omigosh delicious nes drama

so much drama man

Spoiler :

Unrelated:

Spoiler :

Little teaser of what I'm working on

 

[SouthernKing]

Delicious TK. I want.

Serious question, does any of us actually want to Exodus? I mean I know some of you will probably have dual membership, but will anyone exclusively play/host IOTs in that other forum? I'm curious as WWW said that they've taken some IOTers with them and that I'm just curious if that is a permanent migration for them or just people making accounts to see what happens.

My opinion is that a full exodus would vastly reduce the amount of neophytes new blood we get and that would be a bad thing and that a partial exodus would just be Taniforums 2.0. I'll probably make an account at some point but I seriously doubt it would go anywhere.

No one is leaving permanently, except probably Sone. The rest are people making accounts either for playing in games there or just for the hell of it.
In fact, I said a couple of times on chat that I think what will probably happen is the remnants of CFC NES finding that it's easier to merge with IOT than to continue on their own, so there's that, which is good for us. We could actually try a merger again soon, since the srsbsns people who were deadset against it are gone.

 

[hoplitejoe]

I might get an account so I can laugh when paradise isn't quite as it seems.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Is Sone permaleaving?

 

[christos200]

I will not leave. I just joined the other forum for fun/posting history articles. I will stay here. And I believe no IOTer, except for Sone perhaps, will permaleave CFC. All others will just have two accounts and will be in both forums.

 

[mrrandomplayer]

I have dual accounts because I still post here, on S&T, and the DoC forums.

 

[Reus]

Reusland shall remain here.

 

[Daftpanzer]

I said a couple of times on chat that I think what will probably happen is the remnants of CFC NES finding that it's easier to merge with IOT than to continue on their own, so there's that, which is good for us. We could actually try a merger again soon, since the srsbsns people who were deadset against it are gone.

Its a better outcome than NES fading into oblivion, however we should remember that NESes were a different animal to IoT despite having similar evolutionary paths. I think we mainly wanted a separate forum so people didn't float into our games with false assumptions, especially after the rules on inclusiveness were drafted.

NESes tend to have creative storytelling and realistic roleplay, and very rarely any kind of spreadsheet in sight (although that can happen). For me its all about investment in the setting, immersing yourself in a world that expands and evolves... It was srsbsns because of the amount of time and emotional investment that went into some of these games, and/or the community at large.

I hope you absorb some of that NESer essence and add it to your collective

PS I'm not leaving CFC, just won't be doing much forum gaming here.

EDIT: speaking as someone largely ignorant of recent IoT developments, on second thoughts there doesn't seem to be such a big difference between the forums now anyway...

 

[TheGryphonPrince]

I'm going to create an account there, but just because everyone else is making one. I have no reason to leave this place.

And about a NES-IOT merge: I am very neutral on this since our games are very similar but both communities have developed very differently. Just in case black helicopters are in my way, HAIL SONEREAL!

EDIT: Ninja'd, fully agree with the post above.