Don't give a liberated city back !

[gameout]

What nerve ! I am in a desperate battle with Oda in his continent. At this point a have military and technological superiority. For whatever reason he has alot of cities that take significant resources to conquer each.

I liberate one of Montezuma's cities (he has been vanquish by Oda). I choose, out of the goodness of my heart (actually looking for a diplomacy victory) to give it back to Montezuma. While my units are still in his territory heading to another Oda city, he denounces me, a neutral city-state sides with Oda, other city-states then also side with Oda and before I know it, I am fighting a multiple front battle in foreign territory.

WTH ! I will never liberate another city.

To hell with'em all, let GOD sort'em out !

 

[Superluminal]

Mass genocide prevails!

 

[draaibaar]

Yeah, you liberate a city and next turn they will call you a warmongeror

Also you beat up barbs in their territory, they say thank you you get +5 reward, next turn you'll lose this +5 because you are in their territory.

When making civ5, they only thought of first impression and nothing else.

 

[Bibor]

I liberate one of Montezuma's cities (he has been vanquish by Oda). I choose, out of the goodness of my heart (actually looking for a diplomacy victory) to give it back to Montezuma.

Out of the goodness of your heart my butt. You were having happiness issues

 

[War_Pig]

Also you beat up barbs in their territory, they say thank you you get +5 reward, next turn you'll lose this +5 because you are in their territory..

This has been fixed for awhile now.

 

[esemjay]

What nerve ! I am in a desperate battle with Oda in his continent. At this point a have military and technological superiority. For whatever reason he has alot of cities that take significant resources to conquer each.

I liberate one of Montezuma's cities (he has been vanquish by Oda). I choose, out of the goodness of my heart (actually looking for a diplomacy victory) to give it back to Montezuma. While my units are still in his territory heading to another Oda city, he denounces me, a neutral city-state sides with Oda, other city-states then also side with Oda and before I know it, I am fighting a multiple front battle in foreign territory.

WTH ! I will never liberate another city.

To hell with'em all, let GOD sort'em out !

As a Darwinist, I wouldn't liberate their cities based on pure principle. They obviously couldn't take care of it themselves... so now it's mine. If they want it back, they can pry it from my cold, digital, fingers.

 

[Polish]

I only ever liberate a captured CS. They are not so fickle and will love you long time!

 

[brxbrx]

What nerve ! I am in a desperate battle with Oda in his continent. At this point a have military and technological superiority. For whatever reason he has alot of cities that take significant resources to conquer each.

I liberate one of Montezuma's cities (he has been vanquish by Oda). I choose, out of the goodness of my heart (actually looking for a diplomacy victory) to give it back to Montezuma. While my units are still in his territory heading to another Oda city, he denounces me, a neutral city-state sides with Oda, other city-states then also side with Oda and before I know it, I am fighting a multiple front battle in foreign territory.

WTH ! I will never liberate another city.

To hell with'em all, let GOD sort'em out !

lol, now that you liberated his city, you're his neighbor and he's competing for your land.

You should have kept a Nobunaga's width between the two of you.

 

[jtb1127]

This is just another classic example of how the AI in civilization V are effing ********.

 

[KahunaGod]

This is just another classic example (sic) of how civilization V is effing ********.

fix'd

 

[I_qua_I]

As a Darwinist, I wouldn't liberate their cities based on pure principle. They obviously couldn't take care of it themselves... so now it's mine. If they want it back, they can pry it from my cold, digital, fingers.

 

[SpearMan153]

CS's siding with Oda are unrelated events

Yeah civ5 definitely bugged wrt liberating dead civs

on the other hand, it is not without historical precedent: USA, cough... Iraq, cough...

plus you ARE a warmongering menace to world, why else are you performing inter-continental invasions if not to further your imperalistic aims?

 

[code9]

Yeah , that happened to me once, sort of. I think that was my second to last game, I nearly quit playing then. Just goes to show that the AI programmers in Civ5 would probably be unable to code a pacman AI properly. I mean how hard is it?

If ThatCivLiberatedMe then : have minimum positive relations with that civ, and have negative modifiers be decreased by X amount.

There it took me 10 seconds to type that out. Why is it so hard for coders?

 

[TheBladeRoden]

coding is hard

 

[esemjay]

coding is hard

It's a good thing they get paid for it, then.

 

[GCavalry]

I think even Montezuma denounce you but you still get open border forever and can heal or upgrade your unit in "friendly territory". And they will vote for you. Denouncing is nothing, some liberated civ even is hostile to me, but all they do will be just talking!!

 

[jsktrogdor]

Same thing happened to me, incredibly frustrating. Its easy to complain about alot of things in Civ that really arent that bad. But the diplomacy and the way the AI interprets it, just pathetic.

Someone mentioned Iraq, that was what gave me my inspiration for my latest game. I want to win via space race, but mid-industrial era found myself in 3rd place and actually threatend for once. Washington was clearly wrestling control of the whole continent and if I let him keep going it'd just be me and him. Cant win a space race when the soviets are knocking down your door.

I didnt want to just go on the warpath & build a massive empire. Been there. Done that. Gets boring real quick. So I decide to pull a Desert Storm. I figure I'll push washington out of the lands he's conquered, liberate or give them away to build a balanced world and become the belle of the ball for all my charity.

Anyways, after going from a peaceful nation that hadnt brought war to anyone in 600 years I go on the warpath. I push Washington out of the lands he occupies, take his surrender and liberate Germany, who had been a dead state for some time.

Spoiler :

Took him one turn to stab me in the back.

Oh I'm sorry, you covet lands I own? You mean the ones English sons bled and died on to liberate your people? And I'm a warmonger?? Are you referring to the one war I declared in the past millennia against the country that was taking over the world?

No one will even take the cities I'm offering them. They want me to pay them for the cities I'm trying to give them.

Spoiler :

This would be like if the Americans arrived in Paris in 1944 and the parisians started throwing rocks.

******** dev's.

 

[apocalypse105]

This hole topic is a prove that diplomacy doesn't exist in civ 5 and people found it anoying

They really should give you a positif modifier for it or something or at least some positif result like money or other things now it isn't worth it and why would you make a game mechanic that nobody gonne use? Its like making a useless unit that can't do nothing except walk

 

[smallfish]

The problem here is that 1) it's Monty and 2) it's Monty.

 

[apocalypse105]

The problem here is that 1) it's Monty and 2) it's Monty.

No it isn't a lot of lleader all of them will denounce you if you do this... this issue exist a verry long time in the game And it still has'nt been fixed